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Milwaukee's MSA is very miseading. Racine county counts as it's own metro area even though it's 5 miles outside the city and other suburbs are only counted in MSA even though they are cleary in the Milwaukee metro area. Walworth county whiich isn't counted in the MSA but is counted in the CSA is only 15 miles outside the city. So you have 5 miles away and 15 miles away which isn't counted. I don't think you can find another city that doesn't included suburbs that are 5miles away as not being in the metro area, which is absurd. Milwaukee's true are population is 2-2.3M CSA numbers.
Saying Milwaukee metro area is only 1.5 almost miscounts by a million people. Kenosha even though it is in Wisconsin and only 15 miles outside of the city is counted for Chicago. Chicago Metra rail has a stop there.
Milwaukee's MSA is very miseading. Racine county counts as it's own metro area even though it's 5 miles outside the city and other suburbs are only counted in MSA even though they are cleary in the Milwaukee metro area. Walworth county whiich isn't counted in the MSA but is counted in the CSA is only 15 miles outside the city. So you have 5 miles away and 15 miles away which isn't counted. I don't think you can find another city that doesn't included suburbs that are 5miles away as not being in the metro area, which is absurd. Milwaukee's true are population is 2-2.3M CSA numbers.
Saying Milwaukee metro area is only 1.5 almost miscounts by a million people. Kenosha even though it is in Wisconsin and only 15 miles outside of the city is counted for Chicago. Chicago Metra rail has a stop there.
And Providence MSA counts Fall River and New Bedford, MA. Pretty distorted if you know what I mean.
If you include Kenosha into Milwaukee's CSA, Milwaukee is at 2.5M.
Either way anyone who has driven between Milwaukee and Chicago know it's very much developed between and east of the freeway it's all developed. To say there is space between Chicago metro area and Milwaukee's is just trying to mislead.
And Providence MSA counts Fall River and New Bedford, MA. Pretty distorted if you know what I mean.
Should Providence not count New Bedford and Fall River? They get Rhode Island everything as far as media goes. Fall River is basically Rhode Island as far as Massachusetts is concerned.
I think we're splitting hairs, here. There is a lot more population around Milwaukee that, for some reason, isn't counted in its MSA. And, as Milwaukee City stated, it is developed all the way to Chicago. And, of course, Kenosha was a part of Milwaukee's MSA, and now it's a part of Chicago's MSA. Doesn't mean there are fewer people, they just may be designated differently.
Milwaukee's MSA is very miseading. Racine county counts as it's own metro area even though it's 5 miles outside the city and other suburbs are only counted in MSA even though they are cleary in the Milwaukee metro area. Walworth county whiich isn't counted in the MSA but is counted in the CSA is only 15 miles outside the city. So you have 5 miles away and 15 miles away which isn't counted. I don't think you can find another city that doesn't included suburbs that are 5miles away as not being in the metro area, which is absurd. Milwaukee's true are population is 2-2.3M CSA numbers.
Saying Milwaukee metro area is only 1.5 almost miscounts by a million people. Kenosha even though it is in Wisconsin and only 15 miles outside of the city is counted for Chicago. Chicago Metra rail has a stop there.
Why do people act like they pick counties out of a hat or something?
Like there are criteria for MSA’s and they’re the same for everyone.
Why do people act like they pick counties out of a hat or something?
Like there are criteria for MSA’s and they’re the same for everyone.
Continuous city, is what is being said. Within 5 miles of the city..a solid core to that and beyond. Just saying, Milwaukee has more people than is indicated. And, a lot more going on, than people out east seem to realize. I posted links, but I doubt they're being looked at.
Continuous city, is what is being said. Within 5 miles of the city..a solid core to that and beyond. Just saying, Milwaukee has more people than is indicated. And, a lot more going on, than people out east seem to realize. I posted links, but I doubt they're being looked at.
Again though, your whole argument is based on size. Even if Milwaukee was bigger, that's still irrelevant to subjectivity. If someone likes city A better than city B, then that's all that matters.
You came in with size, when you assumed that Milwaukee was so much bigger. Now size seems to be your whole argument. I'm saying that as much as Boston is much larger, I still might prefer Providence.
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Milwaukee's MSA is very miseading. Racine county counts as it's own metro area even though it's 5 miles outside the city and other suburbs are only counted in MSA even though they are cleary in the Milwaukee metro area. Walworth county whiich isn't counted in the MSA but is counted in the CSA is only 15 miles outside the city. So you have 5 miles away and 15 miles away which isn't counted. I don't think you can find another city that doesn't included suburbs that are 5miles away as not being in the metro area, which is absurd. Milwaukee's true are population is 2-2.3M CSA numbers.
MSA's count entire counties with zero regard to the geographic size or population distribution within it and CSA's are even less economically correlated/connected. They are good figures for economic influence/pull power, but horrible for population comparisons.
Use UA because that actually counts how many people live in a well defined developed area.
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Saying Milwaukee metro area is only 1.5 almost miscounts by a million people. Kenosha even though it is in Wisconsin and only 15 miles outside of the city is counted for Chicago. Chicago Metra rail has a stop there.
Milwaukee's UA is 1.4 million in 545 sq. miles
Racine's UA 135k in 49 sq. miles
Kenosha's UA 164k in 51 sq. miles
So even if you include Racine & Kenosha, Greater Milwaukee "only" has 1.7 million living in 645 sq. miles, so no it does not "miscount" a million people.
Providence's UA has 1.2 million people living in 545 sq. miles
Baltimore's UA is 2.3 million in 717 sq. miles and if include Bell Air's UA (which is separate because of a river) sit's at 2.5 million in 847 sq. miles. Take it for what it is.
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