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I haven't compared their downtowns. Pathetic is what someone would call Milwaukee skyline, if they have never been there. It's not grand, but it's tallest buildings are a little taller than Baltimore's tallest. Also, Baltimore has well over one million people in its MSA...doesn't one expect a difference? It's so easy for someone who has never been to Milwaukee, to think it's not much. Then, they come, and see for themselves. It's a beautiful city...very impressive on the east side. Downtown Milwaukee sits on Lake Michigan, that looks like an ocean. Don't judge, until you've been there. What I love, is driving along the lake, and looking up at the many tall condos that overlook the lake...and also, are adjoined to downtown. It's truly beautiful.
The firsts link shows part of Milwaukee's Third Ward, which adjoins downtown. It has condos (with boat slips), a West Elm, a Restoration Hardware, an Anthropoligie, many restaurants, coffee shops, etc. Milwaukee doesn't just exist in skyscrapers.
I’m only calling the skyline pathetic-because I can see it. I can’t judge the downtown at all.
Believ it or not about HT 3 months ago I asked a couple in Baltimore who’d been to Madison about Milwaukee-it’s a city that interest me because I feel it’s so overlooked -they said “ehh it’s whatever nothing to see” even after I kept pressing them. Disappointing exchange for sure.
Does Milwaukee have an interesting or classical downtown?
Yes, but not many skyscrapers and it really doesn't need them. Somewhere along the line in my life I had the realization that skyscrapers (at least in this country) aren't always open to the public nor do a significant portion of the population live in them. At which point they don't add much of anything to my day to day existence.
The lakefront and riverfront are not to be underestimated in Milwaukee. These discussions are all about personal opinions and preferences. I just happen to really like Milwaukee over the others.
It seems like Milwaukee will always be the odd one out in this comparison since, unlike the other two, it’s neither in the Northeast Corridor nor is it s smaller city within a larger CSA.
Agree but the architecture and 19th century ‘skyscrapers’ in Baltimore give the downtown a very cool feeling. Does Milwaukee have an interesting or classical downtown?
That's a little hard for me to answer. I haven't ever really spent significant time in downtown Milwaukee. I have in Baltimore. I really like the surrounding harbor areas (inner harbor, harbor east, canton, fells point) of downtown Baltimore, but I wouldn't really consider that a "classical downtown" either. The actual "center city" portion of downtown Baltimore (the few blocks north of Pratt Street) are pretty bland with not much going on.
I would say that where Baltimore thrives is the harbor areas, which don't really have a "classic downtown" feel imo, as compared to say a downtown Boston, DC, or Philly.
That's a little hard for me to answer. I haven't ever really spent significant time in downtown Milwaukee. I have in Baltimore. I really like the surrounding harbor areas (inner harbor, harbor east, canton, fells point) of downtown Baltimore, but I wouldn't really consider that a "classical downtown" either. The actual "center city" portion of downtown Baltimore (the few blocks north of Pratt Street) are pretty bland with not much going on.
I would say that where Baltimore thrives is the harbor areas, which don't really have a "classic downtown" feel imo, as compared to say a downtown Boston, DC, or Philly.
I think you missed alot of downtown bmore, judging form our post
I don't doubt that Baltimore has more buildings. But the skyline itself is ugly and boxy. It has no building that cracks 600 feet. Maybe that is why mentally it doesn't do it for me. OKC, Charlotte, Milwaukee, and every other medium size city has a signature 600+ foot skyscraper.
Thats fine and all, no one is contesting Baltimore has a relatively "short" skyline but short =/= small
Second a "signature tower" is relative term, not an absolute one. The most iconic building in Baltimore isn't even a skyscraper but the Aquarium lol.
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If you go on numbers, I will concede that Baltimore wins, but it is not an impressive skyline at all. It is small, dated, boxy, so I still would put it in a "completely different league" than Milwaukee, even if it is bigger on metrics.
I don't dislike Milwaukee's skyline because it gives me mini-Chicago vibes, but when you are talking about a city that has more 2.5x as many +300' tall buildings it's hard to make an argument about them being in the same peer group when it comes to skylines.
It's simply unfair to compare the skyline a 2.8 million metro vs. that of 1.6-5 million metro(s).
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The waterfront is nice, and if it ever got one signature tall tower, 600+ foot, it would be awesome. Until then, it is a bland little choppy skyline. It is tiny compared to any major city. Baltimore's largest skyscraper, the TransAmerica building (built in the 1970s) would be a non-distinct, mid-rise building in any other major city. Pathetic that, that is still the largest building in Baltimore.
Those are great shots of the city (minus Lexington Market, lol), but what exactly is interesting about these? These seem like random shots of a downtown. I can find random streets in Milwaukee that look nice too.
Not knocking any of these. I have lived in Baltimore, and did not find the center city portion of downtown very interesting. I really liked Canton, Fells Point, Harbor East, and the Inner Harbor area. Although, that's just my opinion.
Those are great shots of the city (minus Lexington Market, lol), but what exactly is interesting about these? These seem like random shots of a downtown. I can find random streets in Milwaukee that look nice too.
Not knocking any of these. I have lived in Baltimore, and did not find the center city portion of downtown very interesting. I really liked Canton, Fells Point, Harbor East, and the Inner Harbor area. Although, that's just my opinion.
I see what your saying but I like that downtown Baltimore has tons of just regular rowhomes, street level commerce, grit and pretty architecture. The harbor areas are nicer and more pleasurable b it downtown Bmore is kind of big and it’s really interesting to look at an architecturally /socially it’s cool. Very accessible and lived in-in that sense it’s classical. It’s fairly mixed use and a fairly good cross section of different socioeconomic classes. Although there is much of downtown Bmore that just offices.
Just wondering if any Milwaukee shots would be that eye catching. I can’t find any on street view an Eneans pics definitely aren’t it. Although they were nice
Thats fine and all, no one is contesting Baltimore has a relatively "short" skyline but short =/= small
Second a "signature tower" is relative term, not an absolute one. The most iconic building in Baltimore isn't even a skyscraper but the Aquarium lol.
Baltimore has more 2 1/2x as many +300' tall buildings. They are not even remotely close because one is the hub of a 2.8 million metro vs. one thats the hub of a 1.6 million metro.
We can just agree to disagree on this
Those are good points. The point I was making is that I don't find Baltimore's skyline to be very impressive at all, so that is why the comment that it is "in a different league than Milwaukee's" stood out to me and I commented on that.
I have never heard Baltimore's skyline mentioned in the conversation when it comes to impressive skylines, so IMO it would be in the same league as Milwaukee's. That's not to say I can't see how some would find it more impressive than Milwaukee's. I just don't think it's in a "different league." NYC (obviously), Chicago (obviously), Philly (obviously), Boston, Houston (obviously), LA, SF (obviously), and many other cities have skylines that I would argue are "in a different league" than Milwaukee's. Baltimore is not among that list for me.
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