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View Poll Results: What state is the most comparable to Ohio?
Indiana 79 38.16%
Michigan 45 21.74%
Pennsylvania 60 28.99%
West Virginia 5 2.42%
Kentucky 4 1.93%
Other 14 6.76%
Voters: 207. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-11-2021, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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The fact is, massive swaths (the majority) of both states are mostly flat, open farmland dotted with small towns.
This does not describe Ohio. I honestly think people mix up Ohio and Iowa. Ohio is actually quite an urbanized state. Of course Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati dominate the northeast, central, and southwest regions. But even the other cities aren't really that small either. Akron, Canton, Dayton, Toledo, Youngstown are not small towns. Basically about 1/3 of Ohio is approximately what you describe, 1/3 is Appalachia, and 1/3 is urban.
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:04 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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This does not describe Ohio. I honestly think people mix up Ohio and Iowa. Ohio is actually quite an urbanized state. Of course Cleveland, Columbus, and Cincinnati dominate the northeast, central, and southwest regions. But even the other cities aren't really that small either. Akron, Canton, Dayton, Toledo, Youngstown are not small towns. Basically about 1/3 of Ohio is approximately what you describe, 1/3 is Appalachia, and 1/3 is urban.
I'm very familiar with Ohio as I have driven through it many times - most recently in 2019 when I drove I-70 from the WV state line to Columbus, and then I-71 into Cincinnati.

I've also driven the length of both US 127 and I-75 many times.

The urban areas are highly populated, but they don't take up a lot of land area - as is the case with any densely populated area, hence the word "dense".

I don't consider Ohio's secondary cities that you listed to be "small towns". I'm referring to places such as Van Wert, Wapakoneta, Bryan, Xenia, etc to name a few.
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Old 03-11-2021, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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...and 1/3 is urban.
What you're suggesting is that 15,000 square miles of Ohio (1/3 of its land area) is urbanized. That's a land mass twice the size of New Jersey. Your suggestion is ludicrous. If that much of Ohio's land mass were urbanized, it would be far and away the most populous state in the US.

Humor me and google the following phrase:

"what percentage of ohio's land area is urbanized"
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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What you're suggesting is that 15,000 square miles of Ohio (1/3 of its land area) is urbanized. That's a land mass twice the size of New Jersey. Your suggestion is ludicrous. If that much of Ohio's land mass were urbanized, it would be far and away the most populous state in the US.

Humor me and google the following phrase:

"what percentage of ohio's land area is urbanized"
Your perception of Ohio is ludicrously inaccurate. THe "majority" of Ohio is open farm land. That is just straight up wrong. You have no clue what you're talking about here.
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:22 PM
 
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The fact is, massive swaths (the majority) of both states are mostly flat, open farmland dotted with small towns.
Really? I-77 is hilly from Canton, Oh to the WV border. Actually, the southern 1/3 of Ohio is hilly as is other parts of the state.
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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Your perception of Ohio is ludicrously inaccurate. THe "majority" of Ohio is open farm land. That is just straight up wrong. You have no clue what you're talking about here.
Pretty sad that an outsider like me knows more about your own state than you do.

The total land mass of Ohio is 28,688,000 acres.

14,900,000 of that is farmland.

Do the math, friend.
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Old 03-11-2021, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Alabama
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Really? I-77 is hilly from Canton, Oh to the WV border. Actually, the southern 1/3 of Ohio is hilly as is other parts of the state.
Yes, southern and eastern Ohio are hilly - and the section you mentioned is only a small part of the state. But "hilly" is a relative term. Compared to WV, KY, and PA, Ohio is generally flatter.
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Old 03-11-2021, 04:41 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Pretty sad that an outsider like me knows more about your own state than you do.

The total land mass of Ohio is 28,688,000 acres.

14,900,000 of that is farmland.

Do the math, friend.

You fail to define any terms. You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 03-11-2021, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Cleveland and Columbus OH
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Really? I-77 is hilly from Canton, Oh to the WV border. Actually, the southern 1/3 of Ohio is hilly as is other parts of the state.
He is making things up and just googling things and not defining what "urban" "flat" or "farm " actually means. Nobody driving 77 would say its flat. That is just asinine.
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Old 03-11-2021, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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You can say Pittsburgh and Cleveland have some similarities culturally.

I think that portion of Western Pennsylvania is more alike culturally to Upstate NY with places like Buffalo than Ohio.

And while Cincinnati and Pittsburgh share some similarities with their topography, Cincinnati has a southern influence you do not find in Pittsburgh.

And Eastern Pennsylvania is nothing like Ohio.

Indiana all the way for me.
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