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Old 06-16-2009, 12:26 PM
 
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I didn't say that I thought Southpark was urban. I was saying that it is a nice area for live, work and play.

Beautiful pics, btw!
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Piedmont region
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Lord I love me some South End. Nice pics Urban.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Piedmont region
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^That area is directly adjacent to Uptown.

While all of this is nice, it pales to what has been going on here for years. AND, it does not negate the sprawl that is happening all over the metro Charlotte area.
WE know, Charlotte pales pales pales in comparison to Atlanta, we know. point taken.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:34 PM
 
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^That area is directly adjacent to Uptown.
Kinda like Midtown is directly adjacent to downtown Atlanta. The only thing South End is missing is skyscrapers. And don't you dare say that the lack of skyscrapers makes South End less urban because that's like saying Washington DC is less urban than Atlanta because DC does not have skysrapers. You and I both know that is a laugh!!!

I am not by any means suggesting that Charlotte and Atlanta are in the same class. All I am saying is that it is sad that tier one Atlanta came up with the idea for a Nascar Hall of Fame to go along with the Georgia Aquarium and lost it to tier two Charlotte. Just saying...
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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WE know, Charlotte pales pales pales in comparison to Atlanta, we know. point taken.
carolinablue - I happen to really like Charlotte. My beef isn't with Charlotte, it's with UrbanCharlotte.

His condescending approach and attempted marginalization of Atlanta at Charlotte's expense is nauseatiing - and it goes against the very thing he stated earlier he disliked about Atlanta forumers.

He is guilty of the exact thing he claims he is so against.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:51 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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The Charleston/Orlando comparison is an interesting one. I like the scenery of Charleston a lot better, but as far as repeat tourism, Orlando wins hands down. After a couple trips to Charleston it's like been there, done that. But especially with kids the attractions in Orlando can be fun at a younger age or at teenage, and there's plenty to choose from.
That's the thing; I'm not a teenager anymore. At least when I go to Charleston, I actually go to see Charleston--its history, culture, cuisine, etc. When people go to Orlando, they rarely even step foot inside the actual city, much less downtown. They're going to see a bunch of attractions that could be anywhere.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Atlanta
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Kinda like Midtown is directly adjacent to downtown Atlanta. The only thing South End is missing is skyscrapers. And don't you dare say that the lack of skyscrapers makes South End less urban because that's like saying Washington DC is less urban than Atlanta because DC does not have skysrapers. You and I both know that is a laugh!!!

I am not by any means suggesting that Charlotte and Atlanta are in the same class. All I am saying is that it is sad that tier one Atlanta came up with the idea for a Nascar Hall of Fame to go along with the Georgia Aquarium and lost it to tier two Charlotte. Just saying...
Get your facts straight if you want to play this game bub. Atlanta did NOT come up with the Nascar Hall of Fame, and you know it. We were approached by NASCAR to milk more out of Charlotte, just like they approached Daytona, Richmond and Kansas City. We all know they intended to go to Charlotte from the very day the project was envisioned.

You know that, as does everyone else in the region that can read.

Your pathetic little attempt to boost Charlotte at Atlanta's expense is backfiring, badly.

Oh, and just so you know - there are many, many Atlantans that are GLAD we don't have the thing here.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:57 PM
 
Location: metro ATL
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That was my point exactly!!! The 5 million plus metros of the south have points of interest outside of the central city. That my friend is sprawl. Just imagine how much more urban Houston would look and feel if its 2.2 million population was in a dense city of less than 100 sq miles instead of being in a sprawl-topia of nearly 600 sq/miles. Houston's density is almost equal to Huntington, West Virginia (I am not joking).

I stand by my earlier statements when I said that sprawl is the difference between tier one and tier two southern towns. Miami is the only exception to this.
Sprawl isn't the real difference; it just happens to be an unfortunate by-product of the real difference, which is economic and population growth sustained over a longer period of time.
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Old 06-16-2009, 12:59 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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That's the thing; I'm not a teenager anymore. At least when I go to Charleston, I actually go to see Charleston--its history, culture, cuisine, etc. When people go to Orlando, they rarely even step foot inside the actual city, much less downtown. They're going to see a bunch of attractions that could be anywhere.
In general I agree, although I personally made it a point to hit the botanical garden and Lake Eola downtown. But after 5 trips to Charleston, to me it's like been there done that. Orlando's attractions COULD be anywhere but are not anywhere. And for somebody like me with a family, it becomes even more compelling the idea of seeing your kids enjoy the vacation than hitting the same cultural spot you've hit 5 times before that your kids aren't really going to be into. The only thing I go to Charleston for anymore after the first 3 trips is Reggae Nights in James Island County Park.
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Old 06-16-2009, 01:07 PM
 
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Get your facts straight if you want to play this game bub. Atlanta did NOT come up with the Nascar Hall of Fame, and you know it. We were approached by NASCAR to milk more out of Charlotte, just like they approached Daytona, Richmond and Kansas City. We all know they intended to go to Charlotte from the very day the project was envisioned.

You know that, as does everyone else in the region that can read.

Your pathetic little attempt to boost Charlotte at Atlanta's expense is backfiring, badly.

Oh, and just so you know - there are many, many Atlantans that are GLAD we don't have the thing here.
I can not find the link, but trust me. It was the brainchild of Atlanta. Nascar decided that the only fair way to do things was to have a competition for the museum. That is what actually happened.

And there is no reason to have a beef with me. Anything under 5,000 people per sq/mi is sprawl in my book. Any metro over 5 million is tier one in my book. That makes Charlotte a tier two city of sprawl. That makes the Houstons and Atlantas tier one cities of sprawl. It is what it is.

Be proud of your city for what it is. I am proud of Charlotte for what it is!!!
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