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You can't possibly know what is around these buildings just by looking at this photo. It certainly isn't simply open space...there are low-rise buildings all around that area. It's not as dense as downtown, but it's not built sparsely either.
You can't possibly know what is around these buildings just by looking at this photo. It certainly isn't simply open space...there are low-rise buildings all around that area. It's not as dense as downtown, but it's not built sparsely either.
Good point. The only open space I see is the Freeway ROW.
So I guess that Valley Forge(near KOP), a suburb, has no history.
Many suburbs(back east anyway) started off as the massive estates of founding fathers, and colonial big business men, then evolved into trolley/railroad stops, then evolved into massive malls and shopping centers with the advent of the car.
Maybe out west the suburbs have no history, but I don't know.
Suburbs out here are full of history(you can still see it in may of them)
Many CITIES started off as massive estates of the founding fathers...the history of a place has no bearing whatsoever on it's current status. Many towns, cities, suburbs, etc. have very similar histories.
THIS IS NOT A SUBURB:
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Is it part of the SF bay metropolitan area or not?
If not than SF homers need to stop boosting SF's metro to have 7+ million people.
San Jose is it's own MSA. The CSA is a larger area that includes San Francisco, San Jose, and Oakland.
Oakland is one of the primary cities of the Bay Area MSA...just like Fort Worth is to the Dallas MSA...and Fort Lauderdale is to the Miami MSA...and Durham is to the Raleigh MSA. It really isn't a hard concept to understand, and it's actually a very common situation. None of those primary cities I listed are suburbs - and neither is Oakland.
Many CITIES started off as massive estates of the founding fathers...the history of a place has no bearing whatsoever on it's current status. Many towns, cities, suburbs, etc. have very similar histories.
No, Its practically the entire bay area in that picture.
I'm referring to the Oakland skyline in the foreground...I think anyone who reads my post will realize that.
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Obviously all types of areas can have all types of history.
