Proposed I-795 Quad East loop (Charlotte, Raleigh: neighborhoods, maintenance, prices)
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This article talking about the new I-87 signs being posted also gives the reason why AASHTO rejected NCDOT's request for I-89 last year in favor of I-87.
AASHTO spokesman Tony Dorsey said the organization’s route numbering committee decided that the new North Carolina highway has a better chance of one day connecting to I-87 in New York than to I-89 in New England, and decided the road between Raleigh and Virginia should be I-87.
...which makes zero sense, because the interstate was not (and is not) intended to connect to New England or New York. The cost of upgrading the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel (US-13) between Hampton Roads and the Eastern Shore of VA to interstate standards and the environmentally sensitive land of the Eastern Shore itself instantly kills any hope of such an extension.
This article talking about the new I-87 signs being posted also gives the reason why AASHTO rejected NCDOT's request for I-89 last year in favor of I-87.
...which makes zero sense, because the interstate was not (and is not) intended to connect to New England or New York. The cost of upgrading the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel (US-13) between Hampton Roads and the Eastern Shore of VA to interstate standards and the environmentally sensitive land of the Eastern Shore itself instantly kills any hope of such an extension.
I think i've had an idea on the AA boards...who says that it must follow the US 13 route? Why couldn't it follow I-64 from Chesapeake to Willamsburg to Richmond. From Richmond, it could follow other interstate routes to pair up to I-87 in New York, or follow an alternate path as a traffic reliever in the DMV area until it connects back to I-87 in NY (using US 301 route as a guide).
I think i've had an idea on the AA boards...who says that it must follow the US 13 route? Why couldn't it follow I-64 from Chesapeake to Willamsburg to Richmond. From Richmond, it could follow other interstate routes to pair up to I-87 in New York, or follow an alternate path as a traffic reliever in the DMV area until it connects back to I-87 in NY (using US 301 route as a guide).
I'm hardly ever on the Fictional Highways section, so I guess that explains why I didn't see your idea before. Lol
Anyway, it's possible, but then you'd have to get the other states on board with it. VA is hardly interested in I-87 in it's current form as it is.
That said, your idea ain't bad. The overall routing in VA would be crooked as hell, but at least it avoids the Eastern Shore.
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...which makes zero sense, because the interstate was not (and is not) intended to connect to New England or New York. The cost of upgrading the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel (US-13) between Hampton Roads and the Eastern Shore of VA to interstate standards and the environmentally sensitive land of the Eastern Shore itself instantly kills any hope of such an extension.
I believe the reason they said that has to do with the numbering rules. They're not really supposed to reuse numbers unless there is a "plan" to one day connect the two separate highways together. It makes sense to say that there is a better chance that the NC I-87 will one day connect to the NY I-87 than a NC I-89 connecting to the I-89 in New England.
They're just complying with the exact wording of the rules and not the spirit behind the words. The idea is that in order to avoid any kind of confusion, there should only be one I-XX highway anywhere in the country. They never envisioned running out of numbers when the rules were made.
I believe the reason they said that has to do with the numbering rules. They're not really supposed to reuse numbers unless there is a "plan" to one day connect the two separate highways together. It makes sense to say that there is a better chance that the NC I-87 will one day connect to the NY I-87 than a NC I-89 connecting to the I-89 in New England.
They're just complying with the exact wording of the rules and not the spirit behind the words. The idea is that in order to avoid any kind of confusion, there should only be one I-XX highway anywhere in the country. They never envisioned running out of numbers when the rules were made.
I think I-87 will go on the Chesapeake bay bridge, (Where US-13 is located) onto the Salisbury bypass in Maryland, onto Delaware route 1, Go onto I-95 in Pennsylvania, and somewhere in New Jersey. (Don't think it's gonna be put on the turnpike, but it may be put with I-78 and I-287).
I think I-87 will go on the Chesapeake bay bridge, (Where US-13 is located) onto the Salisbury bypass in Maryland, onto Delaware route 1, Go onto I-95 in Pennsylvania, and somewhere in New Jersey. (Don't think it's gonna be put on the turnpike, but it may be put with I-78 and I-287).
I do not think the Virginia part of the Delmarva Peninsula is doable for an interstate. It'll fit if they really want it to (along with a new 2 lane adjacent road to replace Hwy 13 that the locals will still need, plus the railroad tracks), but the noise and width alone will drastically degrade the quality of life there, then there's the ecosystem issues. I also don't see a way to bypass the towns that 13 runs through - not without putting the interstate right on the beach anyway.
I do not think the Virginia part of the Delmarva Peninsula is doable for an interstate. It'll fit if they really want it to (along with a new 2 lane adjacent road to replace Hwy 13 that the locals will still need, plus the railroad tracks), but the noise and width alone will drastically degrade the quality of life there, then there's the ecosystem issues. I also don't see a way to bypass the towns that 13 runs through - not without putting the interstate right on the beach anyway.
They can't make I-87 run with I-95 for too long though.
I do not think the Virginia part of the Delmarva Peninsula is doable for an interstate. It'll fit if they really want it to (along with a new 2 lane adjacent road to replace Hwy 13 that the locals will still need, plus the railroad tracks), but the noise and width alone will drastically degrade the quality of life there, then there's the ecosystem issues. I also don't see a way to bypass the towns that 13 runs through - not without putting the interstate right on the beach anyway.
VDOT studied it in 2006 and ruled it out due to lack of interest in other states along with the cost of upgrading the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel and environmental impacts on the Eastern Shore. There's been no further talk of it since.
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