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Start with Glassdoor and root out the actual paramedic jobs, not the EMT jobs. You can also go on to a number of hospital and government web sites to see what they are paying various positions.
Glassdoor really is not a very good source. It often has a small amount of responses.
I see not actual reliable data that backs up your claim. Seems the salary is between an EMT and RN. National average is not around 60k.
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So except for this UMDNJ, which I have no idea on earth of the meaning, the starting salares for these jobs are all less than "$20/hr. ($20/hr = $40K/yr.) Nursing salaries start out in the mid-to low 20s/hr.
So except for this UMDNJ, which I have no idea on earth of the meaning, the starting salares for these jobs are all less than "$20/hr. ($20/hr = $40K/yr.) Nursing salaries start out in the mid-to low 20s/hr.
Maybe where you live, but not throughout the country. There are plenty of areas where RN's start at around $18. Around here LPN's are lucky to start at $14.
Maybe where you live, but not throughout the country. There are plenty of areas where RN's start at around $18. Around here LPN's are lucky to start at $14.
You are using your personal examples and not nationwide averages.
You aren't getting to a national avg of 60k with your jobs you posted.
Consider that many many of the people from two-year programs are not coming directly from high school to college, and are often in two-year programs precisely because it is a faster route to employment than a four-year program. Two-year programs often prefer older, "non-traditional" students, because they drop out less. Also, whether one goes to a four-year or two-year school often depends on finances and one's family situation, that is, a single parent with a full-time job (like many of my co-workers) are more likely to choose a two-year program than a four-year for obvious reasons.
For the poster who thought that I was a jealous 2-year person, suffice to say that my 2-year class had 100 percent passing on the boards, and a dropout route of 10 percent, lower than other programs. Average age was 26, and half the class had bachelor's in other areas, plus work experience.
It has been my direct observation over 30 years that BSNs have far less clinical ability because they get far less clinical time in their programs, which is borne out when they specify how much and what kind of clinical time they had. Believe me, I am not jealous of BSNs. For the record, I have an MPH and wouldn't last a minute in any more nursing classes.
I don't think "bright" has that much to do with it.
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It's pretty simple. The brightest students who were the most successful in HS go on to four year schools.
It's no different than saying someone with a four year degree on average will be smarter than someone with an AA. This is just common sense based on entrance test data/gpa in addition to employment data.
HUH? How many years experience? Maybe in the big downtown hospitals with years of experience. Certainly not where I work, which now only hires new grads because they start at the bottom of the scale.
If that's the average nurse in Boston, then I'm ticked off! Unless the "average" nurse has 30 years of experience *and* works for one of the big hospitals downtown. The salaries do fall off accordingly as you leave the big guys.
You are using your personal examples and not nationwide averages.
You aren't getting to a national avg of 60k with your jobs you posted.
A paramedic is close in education to an LPN, in which case paramedics definitely make more money.
Additionally, often paramedic training is employer sponsored. That adds in two years of pay and $50K in educational expenses that an LPN pays out of pocket.
Consider that many many of the people from two-year programs are not coming directly from high school to college, and are often in two-year programs precisely because it is a faster route to employment than a four-year program. Two-year programs often prefer older, "non-traditional" students, because they drop out less. Also, whether one goes to a four-year or two-year school often depends on finances and one's family situation, that is, a single parent with a full-time job (like many of my co-workers) are more likely to choose a two-year program than a four-year for obvious reasons.
For the poster who thought that I was a jealous 2-year person, suffice to say that my 2-year class had 100 percent passing on the boards, and a dropout route of 10 percent, lower than other programs. Average age was 26, and half the class had bachelor's in other areas, plus work experience.
It has been my direct observation over 30 years that BSNs have far less clinical ability because they get far less clinical time in their programs, which is borne out when they specify how much and what kind of clinical time they had. Believe me, I am not jealous of BSNs. For the record, I have an MPH and wouldn't last a minute in any more nursing classes.
I don't think "bright" has that much to do with it.
Sure it does. On average in this nation the smartest people attend a four year university. This is proven with testing/employment/salary data. Of course there are exceptions to the rule.
Many of the best BSN probably advanced beyond RN referencing your personal example.
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A paramedic is close in education to an LPN, in which case paramedics definitely make more money.
Additionally, often paramedic training is employer sponsored. That adds in two years of pay and $50K in educational expenses that an LPN pays out of pocket.
50k? If anyone is paying that amount out of pocket for either that is rather foolish.
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