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Meh....Bill Maher is in the business of making jokes. And LU is a easy target. Doesn't mean it sucks or isn't legit. I would hope anyone that has successfully went too college has the critical thinking skills to realize this.
Here's a good example of what I mean. It's a tad snobby but I'm sure this perspective is more common then people would like too believe. Below is the quote I am specifically talking about.
Besides the promotional pipelines it creates, setting a floor of college attainment also creates more office camaraderie, said Mr. Slipakoff, who handles most of the firm’s hiring and is especially partial to his fellow University of Florida graduates. There is a lot of trash-talking of each other’s college football teams, for example. And this year the office’s Christmas tree ornaments were a colorful menagerie of college mascots — Gators, Blue Devils, Yellow Jackets, Wolves, Eagles, Tigers, Panthers — in which just about every staffer’s school was represented.
“You know, if we had someone here with just a G.E.D. or something, I can see how they might feel slighted by the social atmosphere here,” he says. “There really is something sort of cohesive or binding about the fact that all of us went to college.”
That perspective is exactly what I see in my workplace with online vs traditional college degrees. When someone finds out they went to school online they treat them different. Like "you didnt really go to college" type of deal. And yes, its common but people just dont want to admit it.
That perspective is exactly what I see in my workplace with online vs traditional college degrees. When someone finds out they went to school online they treat them different. Like "you didnt really go to college" type of deal. And yes, its common but people just dont want to admit it.
I don't think it's online as much as it's for-profit. One of my former collegues got her BS in chem from a B&M Ivy, and while at work obtained a Master's in bioinformatics online via NYU IIRC. Nobody turned a nose at that - bioinformatics and computational chemistry is a PIA.
I don't think it's online as much as it's for-profit. One of my former collegues got her BS in chem from a B&M Ivy, and while at work obtained a Master's in bioinformatics online via NYU IIRC. Nobody turned a nose at that - bioinformatics and computational chemistry is a PIA.
Well that's kind of different. Although in my workplace if you went to an online MBA (yes, I know some are OK) you were automatically discredited even if you had a regular bachelors. For profits were the worst though. You were probably better off just not mentioning where you went to school.
Well that's kind of different. Although in my workplace if you went to an online MBA (yes, I know some are OK) you were automatically discredited even if you had a regular bachelors. For profits were the worst though. You were probably better off just not mentioning where you went to school.
I don't know what MBAs do, but if class discussion is important (any of the arts will fit here) or labs, then online won't cut it. I took two classes online when I was in grad school. One was cake and the other was the most difficult class I had through out my academic career. Although, I had that same prof in the classroom for another course.
I don't think it's online as much as it's for-profit. One of my former collegues got her BS in chem from a B&M Ivy, and while at work obtained a Master's in bioinformatics online via NYU IIRC. Nobody turned a nose at that - bioinformatics and computational chemistry is a PIA.
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I don't know what MBAs do, but if class discussion is important (any of the arts will fit here) or labs, then online won't cut it. I took two classes online when I was in grad school. One was cake and the other was the most difficult class I had through out my academic career. Although, I had that same prof in the classroom for another course.
Most of an MBA program involves sharing your work experience and solving solutions. A lot of the top schools use the case method so it obviously wouldn't work well with an online program. Plus, an MBA is nothing more than a name brand that pays your ticket to entry for certain jobs.
Well, I just took some time from doing some schoolwork for my BUS603 Quantitative Analysis class at AMU to see what other people were saying about the legitimacy of this school. I started reading on page 8 of this thread, dated in 2010. A lot of people said a lot of things, and I was quite entertained by it all.
I had already come to the conclusion that AMU is all about profit, and they definitely have a sweet gig getting money straight from the Government with GI Bills and tuition assistance. Can't beat them for having a stellar business model...but educating the People of America is ultimately more important than turning profit.
I earned my Bachelor of public health from AMU while enlisted in the Navy. It may have helped get me a job as a contractor doing mindless administrative tasks (every public health job I applied for went nowhere), but that job was a joke, so I quit and began pursuing an MBA.
During my BPH coursework, I always considered AMU kind of a joke. There were people using horrible grammar in mindless discussion posts. It drove me crazy (I'm 100% sure they passed). The teachers were either really great at communicating, or absolutely horrible at it. Most of the classes are incredibly easy. Towards the end of my 'senior' year, I began shortening my papers just to see if the teachers noticed. I also bulls**ted some of them with filler to see if they even read them. They did not, and I made A's on mediocre papers for the last few classes. I did this partially out of laziness, but mostly because I realized I could and still make good grades.
When you are in a class full of people who don't try and still pass...well, its kind of like socialism...the dummies are getting A's for garbage work, so why should the smart ones work any harder then them?
There are some classes which were definitely tough (because the teacher MADE it difficult), but for the most part, it was all pretty easy. Some of the books I received for class were cheap and absolutely useless.
For AMU, you really get out of it what you put in to it. I decided to stick with them out of convenience; they had all of my community college and bachelor transcripts, and transitioning to an MBA was incredibly easy. I really want to believe that when I am finished, my MBA from AMU will help me get a decent job...but part of me is certain that I will be stuck doing government work, of which I have no desire to do (unless it pays really well). As everyone here has said, AMU is great for government/military work.
A buddy of mine worked in Intelligence in the Navy. He got his masters in International Studies from AMU. He now works in Tampa making REAL money...so AMU can't be all that bad. I really think it depends on which degree you decide to pursue.
Another buddy of mine also got his Master's from AMU. He is now a GS-9 in the DOJ in DC.
You certainly can't beat the price. I have always wanted a challenge when it comes to learning, however. Sure, there is a fair amount paper writing, and you will get out what you put in. The main problem is this; if teachers are passing people who aren't trying or are clearly not getting the subject, then what does that actually say about the school's reputation? If the job market is flooded with ignorant individuals holding an AMU degree and claiming to be educated, that's pretty much ruining it for those who worked hard to get their AMU degree. But this goes for ALL colleges, B&M included.
All in all, it IS an education, and some education is ALWAYS better than NONE!
AMU just needs to be a little more concerned about the learning aspect.
I've followed the entire thread and this post sums it up quite nicely. I was an active duty NCO and now reservist who works for the federal government. I graduated from AMU with a masters in education and was hired as a GS-13 Project Manager. The degree may not be rigorous, but my paycheck is real, and I qualified for it with an AMU degree. I do not get razzed for it at work, people who talk about where they went to school are douchebags. I work daily with medical clinicians who hold 'prestigious' degrees. I am still respected because where I received my degree has no bearing on my capability to do the job.
AMU is not prestigious, and no one in their right mind would assume an AMU degree alone will land them a good job. It is a school for working adults. In tandem with quality experience, you can land a good job. My officer while I was on active duty went to Ashford, so you can make it through OTS with an online degree. AMU is what it is, and hiring managers know this. Having an AMU degree is not prestigious, but it is still a degree. I believe only 35% of the working world has a bachelors degree, and an AMU qualifies you more jobs that require a degree. What else do you want? It literally checks a box for employers. That's fine with me.
The argument against AMU seems to be that it is not prestigious and hiring managers from fortune 100 companies wont hire you. This is true. Let's be serious though, AMU is not trying to reach that market. They are increasing access to college education for working adults so they can get promoted at their current job or allow them a foot in the door in a new career. At this, I am proof that it succeeds. If your goal is to be a hotshot businessperson at a fortune 100 company, you wouldn't even consider AMU. For the rest of the 95% percent of the world, go to AMU, graduate debt free, and get promoted at work.
I do not get razzed for it at work, people who talk about where they went to school are douchebags.
Why is talking about where you went too school a douchebag thing to do? I see people wear university apparel when they have never attended said school. Are they douchbags? I paid tuition and contributed I think I have a right to mention my school. What's next? Can I not wear my jump wings now? Or my OIF ribbon? Is talking about things important a douchebag move when other people haven't done it?
Maybe that is just a personal pet peeve. People who constantly mention their alma mater have always annoyed me. Why do I care what school you went to 20 years ago? Higher education to me has never been an identity, just like the military. Sure i've accomplished things in the military that i'm proud of, and i've even attended a prestigious local school. But these things are not my identity and do not get brought up in conversation. Universities and the Military are just a melting pot of society anyway and do not state anything about the individual. Have you ever been to a networking event? People want to hear what you have done, not what organizations you have been a part of. It is more impressive to state that I managed 2 million in projects that resulted in 42% increased efficiency than stating I graduated from State U 15 years ago.
I don't follow your question about your OIF ribbon and jump wings, those are a military requirement in uniform. Can you wear them in civilian clothes? No. As for wearing university apparel without having attended the institution, that is fine. These days with university sports being so popular, it's more about being a sports fan than about the school itself.
Back to the point, AMU is an affordable and accredited university that will open up opportunities upon graduation. It's not for everyone, but it is a great choice for most.
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