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Old 08-29-2017, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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In New Jersey, Amtrak goes 125 mph. Connecticut is pathetic.
That is ONLY in sections of central New Jersey. You certainly don't see that in northern New Jersey or around Philadelphia. Plus you are comparing sections of track that go through open flatlands to those that go through densely developed coastal areas. Not sure what you expect. Jay
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Old 08-29-2017, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Florida and the Rockies
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Read the post I was responding to. GeoffD was complaining about rail service from Connecticut but the problem is not in our state, it is in New York. What can Connecticut do about a problem that is in New York? He is complaining about a system that was designed and built 150 years ago. We know it needs improvement but that needs to be addressed by New York and Amtrak. Connecticut has little control over it. Jay
Connecticut COULD build high-speed rail from, say, I-84 at the Massachusetts border to Greenwich running across the state at 180MPH in one hour, including dwell time at Hartford. It only requires (expensive) land and (expensive) labor. But it is technically achievable.

I would wager that MA would extend such a right-of-way to Worcester, connecting onward to Boston, and that NY would run trains from the CT state line, express to Penn Station or Grand Central, even at current speeds a distance of circa 30 minutes.

There is no technical reason that a train on a high speed ROW could not make the journey from Hartford to NYC or to Boston in 90 minutes or less. It's really astonishing how slow the current train schedule is now.

The political will, however, is not there.
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Old 08-29-2017, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Shoreline Connecticut
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That is ONLY in sections of central New Jersey. You certainly don't see that in northern New Jersey or around Philadelphia. Plus you are comparing sections of track that go through open flatlands to those that go through densely developed coastal areas. Not sure what you expect. Jay
New Jersey train had frequent troubles. Penn Station had frequent troubles too over past couple of years.

Train got stuck today in the peak morning hour:

NJ Transit Train Gets Stuck, Stranding Commuters - NBC New York


NJ Transit Train Gets Stuck, Stranding Commuters

Another thing I noticed from media is that their estimate was low ball. I was stuck in metro north train earlier this year for one incident for 2 hours, the media said 1 hour delay.
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Old 08-29-2017, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Northeast states
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Connecticut COULD build high-speed rail from, say, I-84 at the Massachusetts border to Greenwich running across the state at 180MPH in one hour, including dwell time at Hartford. It only requires (expensive) land and (expensive) labor. But it is technically achievable.

I would wager that MA would extend such a right-of-way to Worcester, connecting onward to Boston, and that NY would run trains from the CT state line, express to Penn Station or Grand Central, even at current speeds a distance of circa 30 minutes.

There is no technical reason that a train on a high speed ROW could not make the journey from Hartford to NYC or to Boston in 90 minutes or less. It's really astonishing how slow the current train schedule is now.

The political will, however, is not there.
Hire 5000-7000 workers we get it done less than two years like China
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Old 08-29-2017, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Originally Posted by westender View Post
Connecticut COULD build high-speed rail from, say, I-84 at the Massachusetts border to Greenwich running across the state at 180MPH in one hour, including dwell time at Hartford. It only requires (expensive) land and (expensive) labor. But it is technically achievable.

I would wager that MA would extend such a right-of-way to Worcester, connecting onward to Boston, and that NY would run trains from the CT state line, express to Penn Station or Grand Central, even at current speeds a distance of circa 30 minutes.

There is no technical reason that a train on a high speed ROW could not make the journey from Hartford to NYC or to Boston in 90 minutes or less. It's really astonishing how slow the current train schedule is now.

The political will, however, is not there.
This is what Amtrak is considering right now but the costs are in the multiple billions with no way to pay for it. While politically it is suicide, financially it is very difficult if not impossible at best. Jay
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Old 08-29-2017, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Originally Posted by westender View Post
Connecticut COULD build high-speed rail from, say, I-84 at the Massachusetts border to Greenwich running across the state at 180MPH in one hour, including dwell time at Hartford. It only requires (expensive) land and (expensive) labor. But it is technically achievable.

I would wager that MA would extend such a right-of-way to Worcester, connecting onward to Boston, and that NY would run trains from the CT state line, express to Penn Station or Grand Central, even at current speeds a distance of circa 30 minutes.

There is no technical reason that a train on a high speed ROW could not make the journey from Hartford to NYC or to Boston in 90 minutes or less. It's really astonishing how slow the current train schedule is now.

The political will, however, is not there.
With enough money anything is possible, but the terrain in this area would require numerous bridges and tunnels. That alone would reduce the potential speeds of train(s). The coastal route (even if it was moved inland 10 miles or so) makes more sense.
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Old 08-30-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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With enough money anything is possible, but the terrain in this area would require numerous bridges and tunnels. That alone would reduce the potential speeds of train(s). The coastal route (even if it was moved inland 10 miles or so) makes more sense.
Which is why Amtrak should just run high speed rail to the Hudson via Western Massachusetts and let Connecticut drown in their cesspool. Every Connecticut rail infrastructure proposal gets rich NIMBY people filing lawsuits. Fine.
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Old 08-30-2017, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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I email Hard Rock Cafe last week and they said they're still planning on building a apartments, hotel, restaurant across the street from Yard Goats Stadium. In coming weeks they going unveil their new plan they want add supermarket in their plans.

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Old 08-30-2017, 11:05 AM
 
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I email Hard Rock Cafe last week and they said they're still planning on building a apartments, hotel, supermarket and restaurant across the street from Yard Goats Stadium. In coming weeks they going unveil their new plan
The Hard Rock was going to build a supermarket? Something doesn't seem quite right with that post. Care to elaborate?
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Old 08-30-2017, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Northeast states
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The Hard Rock was going to build a supermarket? Something doesn't seem quite right with that post. Care to elaborate?
They thinking of adding some kind of supermarket in the development they want to add apartments
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