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Old 05-23-2015, 11:50 AM
 
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Ok, I went outside and meditated. I have "dealt" with your claim that your boyfriend has a motorcycle and you ride on the back of it. It was hard, but i got through it.

Please re-write the second paragraph. Try to make sense. I'm not asking you to move heaven and earth, just make some sense.
Honestly....
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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9 dead in Waco, Texas biker brawl - CNN.com Nine are dead. Where is the lie? How many would be dead if law enforcement had not stepped in?
As others have said, probably none. The real thugs here are cowards with badges.....as usual. Mere punks!
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:52 AM
 
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It makes you wonder just what kind of retards CNN has working for them now.
I do wonder why they didn't address race in this story, myself. It appears the media is harping on the story about the rich Greek family, living in Washington D.C,who was murdered by a psychopath....of course the psychopath is the stereotypical black thug. The point is: thugs can in all races. The media seems to perpetuate stereotypes.
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:53 AM
 
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Are you sure? or would someone like Eminem or those that embrace the Gangsta Rap culture be more closely associated



I agree, but then again, we can play the "what if" game all day.



Yes, but on the flip-side, this is a pretty big crime scene, it's gonna take days and days to process it, LE is quiet on the matter because they don't want to to prematurely release info that could possibly be discounted by their own investigators later on. They're playing it safe. I know that this can be construed as "it's a cover up", or "they're getting their stories straight" and whatnot, but it is what is, this is how investigations work. People are expecting CSI, case wrapped up in 45 min. It just doesn't work that way.

Of course, this is all an educated guess on my part. I've never worked LE in TX so, there's that.
Agree, but why with hold how many officers fired their guns? That should be known right away. What, it has to be verified with testing because the officers can't be trusted to tell the truth?

The number of shots fired by le should be known right away too, if the officers can be trusted.

All i can say is watch a few of these sensational "biker gang" fiascos from beginning to end and you quickly recognize the play book/pattern that le and the media love.

Also, there is really no disincentive for swanton to lie and exaggerate. He will not be punished. It won't even be suggested. If lies are deemed necessary by people higher than him, there is actually incentive for him to lie.
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:58 AM
 
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Um.. start looking at the criminal histories of your chior boys...

As I like to say ..please show me your front door and let's have them be your house guests

But..please..provide any legit evidence you have showing the police are lying.... or have been charged with murder here.

Evidence poster.. show us evidence in this case please
Why don't you tell us about the criminal history of the arrested or murdered? Of course lying cops are going to cover for each other as usual, but it's already out that well over 100 of the killed and arrested have NO criminal history! Very few were members of any 1% gang. The reports about attacks on cops are more BS spread by law enforcement to justify their crimes.

The so-called evidence will be manipulated and lied about by cops, as usual. The biggest gang of punk thugs in this country are cops! Lying, murdering COWARDLY scum.
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Old 05-23-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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I do wonder why they didn't address race in this story, myself. It appears the media is harping on the story about the rich Greek family, living in Washington D.C,who was murdered by a psychopath....of course the psychopath is the stereotypical black thug. The point is: thugs can in all races. The media seems to perpetuate stereotypes.
yes they do, but so are you. There are about 169 people locked up for attending an organized political event to discuss motorcycle laws and motorcycle rider rights. Some of them are likely bad people. Some of them likely are not.

You seem to be saying everyone locked up down there is a thug. They are not. And if being in jail is your qualifier for someone being a thug you are employing a self fulfilling prophecy.
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Old 05-23-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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You can think I am stupid, I can give a rat's ass what you think of me. You are a stranger on the internet with an opinion, and I am a stranger on the internet with an opinion. I never stated: bikers were thugs, people who are in gangs and on bikes are thugs. I have zero tolerance for gangs and gang activities---if you have a problem with that too bad.
Cool. What other things do you have zero tolerance for that go on all around you everyday and all over the country/world?
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Old 05-23-2015, 12:15 PM
 
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Hummm... load up a few Air Force cargo planes with all the Texas bikers with all the bikes, guns, ammo, C4 and what ever else they want and airlift them to Iran to take on ISIS. If any of them make it back, give em amnesty.
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Old 05-23-2015, 12:36 PM
 
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As much as I can't stand these people, I don't believe the cops. They've been saying this nonsense every time they get in over their heads with something and want to have the option to "shoot to kill", but with the words "self-defense" involved.

No GANG either biker or street will EVER go to WAR with LAW ENFORCEMENT.

This would be a LOSING battle and they all know it. Just because these bastards live outlaw lives doesn't mean their STUPID. They're scumbags, yes, but NOT dumb.
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Old 05-23-2015, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The latest news I know is that the police shot 4 of the dead. The other 5 are still being determined, which may take some time, as over 200 weapons were left in the parking lot.

Since the biker gangs have many cops and ex-cops in them, I seriously doubt they will go to killing any cop on sight. Even if they had no police in their memberships, even the largest biker gangs don't have enough members to be able to resist any state's police action against them.
The bikers shave wives, kids, and family just like everyone else, and they are not so stupid as to call for anything like this. The article was nothing but BS from top to bottom.

I always wonder why people jump to the most extreme lies so readily.
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