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Old 06-30-2015, 01:08 PM
 
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lol, well what u heard was wrong.
I'm a native English speaker in Miami and I have a job.... a good one at that, so clearly, what you're hearing is wrong.

Just because you're scared of learning another language does not mean the rest of us are. I am able to communicate with and form relationships with so many more people than u ever will. I'm all for bilingualism and support Spanish becoming one of the languages we continue to speak. I love speaking it and enjoy being able to communicate with so many different kinds of people I would have otherwise never known.

You, unfortunately will never understand that, but that's not my problem.
Optimus, I'm also in south Florida and I have to ad that your situation is exceptional. Most jobs in Miami will not consider you as a serious candidate unless you speak Spanish or Creole (depending on where in Miami). Heck, some of them won't even consider hiring you if you're not Hispanic. I've heard of that happening a lot, too. Most of the white people who used to live in Miami are long gone. And many of the blacks who used to live there have moved to Broward.

I agree with you that its good to have bilingual skills, but most other Americans feel that people who immigrate to America should embrace American culture rather than try to efface it with their own.---which sorta makes sense. Why bother to move here to live if you love your country, culture, and language so much?
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:08 PM
 
Location: London
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As a bilingual speaker, I find that Spanish is a much more logical language than English, tbh. And unlike English, it has commonalities with other languages.

I think that's why monoglot English speakers panic at the idea of learning another language. There are none that are *grammatically* very similar to English. Unlike most languages, English has no consistent conjugations, cases, declensions, tones, honorifics, etc. So their brains are not primed to handle a language with a real system, consistency and structure.

Instead, English mostly has to be learned by rote. And there's such a vast vocabulary that it takes forever to teach/master, at the expense of being able to learn other languages.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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As a bilingual speaker, I find that Spanish is a much more logical language than English, tbh. And unlike English, it has commonalities with other languages.

I think that's why monoglot English speakers panic at the idea of learning another language. There are none that are *grammatically* very similar to English. Unlike most languages, English has no consistent conjugations, cases, declensions, tones, honorifics, etc. So their brains are not primed to handle a language with a real system, consistency and structure.

Instead, English mostly has to be learned by rote. And there's such a vast vocabulary that it takes forever to teach/master, at the expense of being able to learn other languages.

Balderdash! Spanish is more logical to you perhaps because it is your first or preferred language.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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These are the kind of comments where you know it's being written by someone who has no clue about a community.

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And you would be very wrong.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:17 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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As a bilingual speaker, I find that Spanish is a much more logical language than English, tbh. And unlike English, it has commonalities with other languages.
Obviously, you don't know anything about:

Dutch
German
French
Latin
Greek

...just to name a few.

Here's how English is related to other modern spoken languages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germanic_languages

Seriously.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:29 PM
 
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US now has more Spanish speakers than Spain
Embrace the melting pot that is the U.S.A.!
People have spoken Spain in "The USA" way before anybody spoke English here.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Maine
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I didn't say it was ok but to only demonize the European settlers for what the so-called natives were doing also is hypocritical.
I'm not intending to demonize the European settlers. I am trying to point out that the descendants of people who robbed and murdered and stole the land from other people now complaining about immigration is more than a little hypocritical.


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Not so hundreds of years ago where there were no established governments or immigration laws.
"But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law,' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual." (Thomas Jefferson)
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:41 PM
 
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Balderdash! Spanish is more logical to you perhaps because it is your first or preferred language.
Balderdash

Tremendous word that is woefully under used. You have a new little slice of green pie for using it.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:49 PM
 
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And you would be very wrong.
LOL, no.

You sound like a non-Spanish speaker who gets nervous that other people know other languages.

Your delusional idea that no one in Miami speaks English because it is majority Latino is completely, utterly absurd. English language is absolutely required for success in Miami. Miami is an English-speaking city, just like any big city in the U.S. It just happens to have tons of Latinos who also speak Spanish.
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Old 06-30-2015, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Planet Earth
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It is time to declare our official language as English.
Why?
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