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You can usually arrange bail within 8 hours even from out of state. It's just a matter of wiring the bail money.
And there's the rub. Someone would have to send the money. What if her family didn't want to send her money? What if she was a mooch? Or they exercised tough love and said, "You made your bed, now lie in it." Not everyone in jail gets bailed out. My ex-husband got irate at a process server, fired at her with a slingshot of all things, and languished in jail for four months before trial on an assault charge. He asked his parents to bail him out and even though they had the money and he had no previous criminal record, they said "No way."
The cop was out of line. The Department of Public Safety has already said as much.
On the other hand, it's best to be polite to police officers. You're not going to win an argument with them and if you **** them off they can cause a lot of trouble.
During the traffic stop that led to her arrest and, ultimately, her death in a Texas jail, Sandra Bland repeatedly questioned the decisions of state Trooper Brian Encinia and asserted rights she said Encinia was violating.
A close look at the police car dashcam video that recorded the exchange shows her questions had merit: Encinia at every occasion escalates the tension. He tells Bland, a Black Lives Matter activist, she's under arrest before she has even left her car, shouts at her for moving after ordering her to move, refuses to answer questions about why she's being arrested and, out of the camera's view, apparently slams her to the ground. He gets testy with her -- "Are you done?" -- when she explains after he points out she seems irritated. And, contrary to a recent Supreme Court decision, he unconstitutionally extends the traffic stop, it appears, out of spite.
The video also shows that Encina never actually ordered Bland to put out her cigarette, but rather asked her politely, to which she responded with a question. To which he answered with aggression.
At times, the confrontation becomes chaotic, but a transcript shows Bland answering the trooper's questions, asserting her rights, and, eventually, directly challenging his treatment of her -- an evaluation shared by some police officers who've watched the video.
The following exchange -- transcribed with the help of HuffPost's Matt Ramos and Dhyana Taylor -- comes after the dashcam video shows Encinia quickly driving toward the rear of Bland's car.
He has no right to demand or expect that she would put out her cigarette, and this is what caused him to pull her out of her car. He made an unreasonable demand,
What do you consider a reasonable request then? It is reasonable to ask some one to turn off their car? How about turning off the radio? How is asking some one to put out a cigarette unreasonable?
A police officer can order you to stay in the car so there is no reason to believe he cannot order you to step out of the car. In fact as several experts have attested to he can order you to step out of the car.
We do not see her facial expression or body language when they are initialing communicating. A police officer will be searching for signs of deception or hostility which may indicate other infractions of the law are present. Her attitude over the cigarette is telling. Her attitude when he orders out of the car again would raise the alert that something else is an issue.
What do you consider a reasonable request then? It is reasonable to ask some one to turn off their car? How about turning off the radio? How is asking some one to put out a cigarette unreasonable?
Why is he pulling her out of the car after she did not comply with his request to put out her cigarette. He asked her, she in return asked him why she should do so, and all of a sudden, he is pulling her out of the car. The officer is the one who lost control of himself and of the situation, as a trained and paid professional public servant. When did it become OK for the police to arrest someone for doing something that is not illegal?
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A police officer can order you to stay in the car so there is no reason to believe he cannot order you to step out of the car. In fact as several experts have attested to he can order you to step out of the car.
We do not see her facial expression or body language when they are initialing communicating. A police officer will be searching for signs of deception or hostility which may indicate other infractions of the law are present. Her attitude over the cigarette is telling. Her attitude when he orders out of the car again would raise the alert that something else is an issue.
Did you read the transcript? Are you OK with what happened here? Because if you are, and others are, there is a problem here. That problem is that you have ceded way too much control and authority to public servants to behave in the manner that this officer did, which clearly is outside of police guidelines, and I say clearly because those departments who have seen this video say that he did not act properly. Not only that, but he lied and obfuscated about the events to his superior and on the report. The officer clearly unnecessarily extended the stop for no good reason (other than his own ego power trip), and continually escalated the encounter, almost as if he was trying to get her to over react so that he could teach her a lesson.
You do realize that we have rights, as citizens, and that we should not just automatically let the police take those rights.
"It's perfectly legal for you to say in the vehicle, but doing so looks bad to the officer," Martin Kron said.
Officers often ask people to "step out of the car" as a safety precaution — to make sure the driver doesn't have any concealed weapons. But it's probably best to get out of the car to avoid a tense situation.
I have already noted several times that Ms. Bland could and should have just kept her thoughts to herself, taken the ticket however, as a citizen, she is not held to the standards that a public servant should be.
I read the transcript up to where she said she was not leaving the vehicle. Refusing a lawful order is grounds for arrest.
I suppose it should be obvious that if a police officer takes a dislike to a person he will act in a manner to incite the subject into a situation where he[she in this case] clearly violates the law where an arrest can be made.
You give courtesy, you receive courtesy. Act like a jerk and you receive likewise and if the person has power over you then you feel the harsh end of that power. A concept which should be naturally understood, but you know, this lady had emotional issues as even her family admits.
I read the transcript up to where she said she was not leaving the vehicle. Refusing a lawful order is grounds for arrest.
I suppose it should be obvious that if a police officer takes a dislike to a person he will act in a manner to incite the subject into a situation where he[she in this case] clearly violates the law where an arrest can be made.
You give courtesy, you receive courtesy. Act like a jerk and you receive likewise and if the person has power over you then you feel the harsh end of that power. A concept which should be natural but you know, this lady had emotional issues as even her family admits.
I guess that it should be obvious a police officer MUST be held to a higher standard exactly because of the fact that something like 40% of people are under some sort of emotional stress at any given time. But you are OK with ceding that much power to a public servant, that one must immediately comply and not question their authority to order a person to do something that they do not have the authority to do? I am of the opinion that folks who are should think deeply about that.
Why is he pulling her out of the car after she did not comply with his request to put out her cigarette. He asked her, she in return asked him why she should do so, and all of a sudden, he is pulling her out of the car. The officer is the one who lost control of himself and of the situation, as a trained and paid professional public servant. When did it become OK for the police to arrest someone for doing something that is not illegal?
Don't know, I am not a cop, nor do I have any training. Right or wrong he felt like he had a reason to. When did it become legal to assault a police officer? If she would have just shut her mouth, she would have got a warning for the lane change and been on her way, but she chose to escalate as well, and ended up getting arrested. I am still waiting for your response as to what a reasonable request is.
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