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Old 08-21-2015, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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These people should NEVER have been fined in the first place for sticking up for their beliefs.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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The right to associate with one another, and reject association with one another freely. I dont like Joe, I will not associate with Joe. I want to join organization x, they dont like me, too bad for me. Organization y likes me, I like them, I will join organization y.

What exactly does it mean to you? Everyone must associate with everyone?
No. Freedom of association is the freedom to be in a GROUP, CLUB OR ORGANIZATION. It has NOTHING to do with whom you do business with.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:47 PM
 
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Well that settles that then.
Well, it wasn't an emotional response. It was a logical response based on fact.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:49 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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These people should NEVER have been fined in the first place for sticking up for their beliefs.
They weren't fined for their beliefs, they were fined for violating the laws of operating a business in the state of Oregon.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:50 PM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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So slavery WAS constitutional in your opinion in 1856? After all it was upheld by the SC.
Um, yes, obviously. That's how our constitution works. You might want to read up on it.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:50 PM
 
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No. Freedom of association is the freedom to be in a GROUP, CLUB OR ORGANIZATION. It has NOTHING to do with whom you do business with.
Are you on drugs? Freedom of association only applies to groups clubs or organizations?

Do you also believe they do not have the right to reject you?
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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Sorry, but this is still about hurt feelings.
This statement is asinine and extremely insulting to the people who lost their lives or were crippled fighting for civil rights. Educate yourself or go to a white supremacy site.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:51 PM
 
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Um, yes, obviously. That's how our constitution works. You might want to read up on it.
You clearly have no idea how our constitution actually works. Unconstitutional laws are not laws, SC mandate or not and should be met with violent opposition if need be.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Baja Virginia
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Please explain, in detail, when market forces in action have ever helped to solve social and/or political issues.
You know, like in the American South, prior to the Civil Rights movement, when market forces made sure that all the discriminatory hotels and lunch counters went out of business.
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Old 08-21-2015, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You can guess which one this is.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances
You're reading way too much into that.

And, to be honest, your comments are un-American.
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