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A good number of predators will kill prey animals when opportunity presents itself, with the chance to come back the next day or so to finish up the "leftovers" …
(Think of the human habit of going to the supermarket and stocking up for the coming week … it's often like that …) …
In addition, large predators such as wild cats will first eat the internal organs, which are readily available and good chewing right away …
The muscle flesh is often left to "age" for a day or two, becoming softened up for consumption by diners who bolt down large chunks of food, rather than doing extensive chewing (as we omnivores do) ...
A killer whale will kill a Great White just to eat the liver. The rest just sinks out. There are multiple recordings of it. Same with Deer in areas it's hard to find calcium. They will bite the heads off baby birds just to get the calcium. Nature can be cruel.
No … I am a primate, a Homo sapiens …
I am an individual of a species, but that does't mean I am a "species-ist" …
You are the one suggesting that some creatures are "better" than others …
Biology degree here, BTW ...
Not that it matters...but you should know then with your degree and previous comments about nature that not hunting things such as deer and animals like that, means they will die of starvation and or disease....but you knew that, right, you area biologist...
And lets not talk about the over population of deer and the affects that is happening to the Forrest....right biologist.....
People and livestock being eaten by lions is a very real issue. That Cecil may not have been engaging in such activity doesn't change that fact. Nor does it change the fact that controlled lion hunting reduces the number of negative encounters that the locals have with lions.
Remember, the Dr. didn't go hunt "Cecil the preserve dwelling lion." Instead, he went lion hunting, and the lion that he got happened to be Cecil. Big difference.
Yeah …
As if the human species in Africa was near extinction before the Great White Hunters came from far away on safari to "control" and "manage" the large predators …
A killer whale will kill a Great White just to eat the liver. The rest just sinks out. There are multiple recordings of it. Same with Deer in areas it's hard to find calcium. They will bite the heads off baby birds just to get the calcium. Nature can be cruel.
"Nature" is natural …
Describing it as "cruel" is a human affectation …
Everything that is alive "eats" something, which is part of the very definition of "life" itself, i.e., "metabolism" ...
Yeah …
As if the human species in Africa was near extinction before the Great White Hunters came from far away on safari to "control" and "manage" the large predators …
uh huh
The lion is near extension? Really? WOW, I wonder why those people let that hunter purchase a permit to kill a lion then?
Yeah …
As if the human species in Africa was near extinction before the Great White Hunters came from far away on safari to "control" and "manage" the large predators …
uh huh
I never said nor suggested such a thing. But the threat of lion attacks is quite real, your reductio ad absurdum notwithstanding.
If there were regular wolf attacks on people and livestock in your neck of the woods, would you want something to be done about the problem, or would you shrug it off with a "well, we're not close to extinction yet. Just let the wolves eat a few more people"?
Not that it matters...but you should know then with your degree and previous comments about nature that not hunting things such as deer and animals like that, means they will die of starvation and or disease....but you knew that, right, you area biologist...
And lets not talk about the over population of deer and the affects that is happening to the Forest....right biologist.....
So there was an over-population of Elk in Yellowstone to the point they were starving. Rather than letting people hunt they brought back the Wolf. Now the ranchers have to go back to SSS and the Elk herds quickly dwindled due to the Wolf. You can control tags, you can't control how many a pack eats.
Not that it matters...but you should know then with your degree and previous comments about nature that not hunting things such as deer and animals like that, means they will die of starvation and or disease....but you knew that, right, you area biologist...
And lets not talk about the over population of deer and the affects that is happening to the Forrest....right biologist.....
Everything living eventually dies and is eaten by other creatures -- if not by a predator or herbivore, then finally by bacteria and fungi … That's the cycle of life …
Indeed, animals such as deer that become sickened by disease or parasites or injury are most easily caught by predators …
And, see, life as predator can be considerably risky, too … Prey animals often are able to defend themselves vigorously by sharp hooves, antlers or horns … A wolf or cat that decides to go after a big strong healthy buck sporting a large rack of antlers … is foolish … so they almost always go for the young, the weak, and the abundant ...
But, yes, the north woods of central North America have an historically large population of whitetail deer that have been migrating westward in recent times as elk and moose populations have declined … This has happened especially as forest communities have changed significantly due to logging practices of the last 200 to 300 years …
What's your point … ???
But, yes, I support ethical hunting of animals for meat … So what … ???
So there was an over-population of Elk in Yellowstone to the point they were starving. Rather than letting people hunt they brought back the Wolf. Now the ranchers have to go back to SSS and the Elk herds quickly dwindled due to the Wolf. You can control tags, you can't control how many a pack eats.
Yep.
Wolves are a huge problem in MT/ID/WY. As you said, the ranchers WILL solve that problem. They are doing a good job as we speak.
The weeping, wailing, and gnashing of teeth from the bunny huggers that pushed for wolf re-introduction is epic.
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