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Charges are a little much, but it is definitely not okay for teens (or anyone, really) to go around forcibly kissing one another. By 13, they should know boundaries and understand yes and no/right and wrong, and no, it's not okay or right to kiss a girl, even if it was a little innocent school dare. This boy should be punished in some way but not through the legal system.
I think being sent to principal's office, getting a talking to and detention, is quite appropriate.
My thought is this: Did he give her a mere peck on the cheek? If so then lighten up. Did he shove his tongue down her throat while grabbing her butt and massaging her breast(s)? If so then yeah we have a problem.
I disagree. I'm the mother of a teenage girl and if a boy grabbed her and kissed her I would not be on board for anything other than detention, a stern admonishment and an apology.
The child is still learning about how to behave. Many kids his age have figured it out, but he, apparently, does not. Not every episode of misbehavior calls for bringing down the full force of the law.
Oh, you fellas are so funny with your classic, misogynistic attitudes! Let me guess, she should have taken it as a compliment too, right?
No man or boy has the right to kiss a girl or woman without her consent. There's nothing funny or cute about it.
This post exactly. Why must we victim blame. What we need to do is stop telling people women can be kissed, smacked on the butt, sexed, etc. without their consent. We need more people hosting "Can I Kiss You" seminars IMO.
This post exactly. Why must we victim blame. What we need to do is stop telling people women can be kissed, smacked on the butt, sexed, etc. without their consent. We need more people hosting "Can I Kiss You" seminars IMO.
NO ONE has blamed the victim! We have, however, blamed TPTB for creating such a black and white society that hurts students instead of helping them.
This post exactly. Why must we victim blame. What we need to do is stop telling people women can be kissed, smacked on the butt, sexed, etc. without their consent. We need more people hosting "Can I Kiss You" seminars IMO.
In a situation like this, the perp is more the victim than the victim.
NO ONE has blamed the victim! We have, however, blamed TPTB for creating such a black and white society that hurts students instead of helping them.
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Let me guess. She didn't find the boy cute.
AKA he wasn't cute, so she decided to press charges (or the cops did). Had he been cute, it would have been fine.
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Originally Posted by tairos
That [^] is true definition of sexual assault these days.
AKA, not a cute guy does something with a girl means he sexually assaulted the girl. Again, had the girls found him cute - no assault. AKA girls are shallow and make things up.
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But even if she had given her consent, she could have changed her mind the day after a kiss, said she felt pressured, etc and he would have still been charged with assault.
AKA this girl potentially could have wanted it then changed her mind, effectively ruined this boy's life by pressing charges.
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Originally Posted by danielj72
A 13 year old boy chasing and kissing a 14 year old girl is NOT assault. It sounds more like detention to me. I find it disgusting how some think its ok to ruin this young mans life over something like this.There is a war on young men these days, they go to jail when they are 18 with 16 year old girlfriends, they are child pornographers when some little girl gives them inappropriate pictures of themselves and they are rapists when some little girl points a finger. I am tired of people thinking this is ok. I am not supporting any of the behavior I just listed, but the general immorality of our youth is bringing about this kind of behavior. However for this bad behavior we are choosing to throw the book at young men and the little girl is always innocent, or a victim. Feminist groups are working overtime to make sure it stays that way. How on earth can anyone think a 13 year old boy is a criminal for kissing a 14 year old girl?? Good grief
If this doesn't scream 'it's the girl's fault' I don't know what does. Don't you know, this teen boy was just chasing after this teen girl? Totally allowed. She should just take it and accept it because it's what boys do. BTW sorry that we have an age of consent and statutory rape laws.
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If we were both in middle school I wouldn't be pressing charges.And if you would do that to me now Id push you away and tell you to mind your own business. Not press charges.
Middle school = too young to press charges. She should have just pushed him away instead. That would have taught 'em.
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If she'd liked him, it would have been 'romantic' or whatever. Admittedly, his risk analysis was rather poor here. It tends to be with 13 year olds.
Again - because she didn't like him back, it was assault. If she had, it would have been totally fine for him to forcibly kiss her without asking.
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Yet another example of how our culture in this day and age makes mountains out of molehills, partially for the sake of political correctness.
This is so stupid...
Being in elementary and middle school was all about minor/innocent dares and stealing kisses. No big deal.
Sigh...
Yet again we have middle school = no possible assault. Too young. "Normal" behavior.
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Originally Posted by 3~Shepherds
Make the story much more dramatic..........people need to lighten up! Adults are ruining the world more than our youth!
What's wrong with the girl, either like it or punch him.....thought we were teaching girls to think independently. We are certainly becoming a sue happy world. I remember when suing others for silly things, was frowned upon.
Quite literally "what's wrong with the girl?" If this isn't victim blaming, what the hell is? She should have either liked it or punched him, right? She chose option 3: pressing charges, not okay! Only two options people. You like a kiss that's been forced upon you or you punch the guy/girl. No charges allowed. Next.
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Why let a boy take control......do something about it. If not, men will control you for the rest of your life........ No, I am not saying she had to like it, but it wasn't rape. I would tell my girls to do something about it.I was 12 when a boy did this to me and I kicked him.....so I do , do as I say.......he never looked at me the rest of the year and his friends knew I would not stand for being disrespected. I didn't know I could sue.
Come on! It wasn't rape! As long as she wasn't raped, who cares what happens to her?? Overdramatic b*tch. She should have actually done something about it. Because pressing charges doesn't count as doing something. Only punching him would count as doing something about it. Or maybe she should have just kicked him. That would teach him! Pressing charges for an assault is just plain cruel. Poor boy. Actually has to suffer consequences of his actions. SMH.
I wish I was shocked reading through some of these posts, but I'm really not. Such is city-data sometimes.
NO ONE has blamed the victim! We have, however, blamed TPTB for creating such a black and white society that hurts students instead of helping them.
I would read JerseyGirl's post. There was a LOT of victim blaming in this thread, many of which condoned violence. As an educator myself, I know that it is never alright to resort to violence barring someone being violent to you. This case had no such violence, therefore the girl would be more wrong. Others claimed it was over "how cute the boy was" implying that the girl would have accepted it from a cuter boy.
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In a situation like this, the perp is more the victim than the victim.
How do you determine that. The only way he is victimized is that he had charges pressed against him for something he shouldn't have done in the first place. Had he not kissed her, we wouldn't be talking about this story because this wouldn't be a story.
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Left out this gem. SHE victimized HIM.
The perp is never the victim. Hence the use of the term "perp." If you had to use "perp" to describe him, he's certainly not a victim.
Yeah more victim shaming. The posters here really disgust me sometimes.
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Only two options people. You like a kiss that's been forced upon you or you punch the guy/girl. No charges allowed. Next. 
