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Old 09-21-2015, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Please.

These slaps on the wrist teach nobody anything.

Sexual assault gets a stern lecture and a vacation from school?

Laughable.

 
Old 09-21-2015, 07:14 PM
 
Location: White House, TN
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They should drop the charges immediately. He's a middle schooler, this should be a discipline issue. A waste of legal resources, let alone a draconian punishment for the kid. It's way too easy to get people in legal trouble these days.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 07:14 PM
 
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Please.

These slaps on the wrist teach nobody anything.

Sexual assault gets a stern lecture and a vacation from school?

Laughable.
Do you really believe the only way people learn life lessons is through criminal charges? Please answer the question.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 07:34 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Do you really believe the only way people learn life lessons is through criminal charges? Please answer the question.
Of course not.

But if you commit a crime, then logically...criminal charges ensue.

What if he set fire to a nursing home? Or stole a car? Or broke into your house, beat your dog, and stole your TV?

I think the problem here is you people honestly don't believe this girl was assaulted. And that's sick.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 07:47 PM
 
Location: BC, Arizona
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Of course not.

But if you commit a crime, then logically...criminal charges ensue.

What if he set fire to a nursing home? Or stole a car? Or broke into your house, beat your dog, and stole your TV?

I think the problem here is you people honestly don't believe this girl was assaulted. And that's sick.
Agreed.

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They should drop the charges immediately. He's a middle schooler, this should be a discipline issue. A waste of legal resources, let alone a draconian punishment for the kid. It's way too easy to get people in legal trouble these days.
Nobody "got him in trouble". He (on a dare) sexually assaulted a girl that on every set of facts did NOT in any way want the assault.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 07:51 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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Y'all do realise you can spread herpes that way, right? I mean, maybe its not as big of a deal, but it is not that alien of a concept that a person feels harassed by an unwanted kiss.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 07:52 PM
 
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Of course not.

But if you commit a crime, then logically...criminal charges ensue.

What if he set fire to a nursing home? Or stole a car? Or broke into your house, beat your dog, and stole your TV?

I think the problem here is you people honestly don't believe this girl was assaulted. And that's sick.
Anything can be a crime.

I do think the girl was assaulted. I also think many things can fall under the "assault" term. For example, one of my kids was bitten in kindergarten. He had a bruise the color of a plum on his upper arm. Visible teeth marks and everything. Should the biter have faced criminal charges? IMO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 07:55 PM
 
Location: St. Louis Park, MN
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Here's another link with slightly more information. Apparently the boy grabbed her shirt near her stomach, and forcibly open-mouth kissed her. He did it on a dare, with his buddies egging him on.

8th Grader Facing Assault Charge For Kissing Classmate At Pikesville Middle School « CBS Baltimore

The definition of assault is unwanted physical contact. That is exactly what happened here.

If somebody did that to my 14-year old daughter, I would also press charges. It's not cute, it's not "boys will be boys". It's assault.

He's being charged as a juvenile, so this isn't going to ruin his life by any means, but maybe he - and any other boys who may be watching this case - will think twice before they grab another girl and shove a tongue down an unwilling throat.
I agree with you. I've always hated any kind of dare which involved something intimate like a kiss, or something sexual, to someone, without their knowledge. Plus, it just harbours an attitude in young boys that it is okay to play games which involve using a girl's body like that. That is not how anyone should kiss anyone. You ask them "Can I kiss you?" and you DON'T if they don't want you to. You don't just run up and do it without them expecting, unless you are in a relationship with them and have established it is okay.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 08:15 PM
 
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I could agree with suspension. Certainly not removing the child from the school. Absolutely not.
I agree based on the one instance, but we don't know this student and his history. It depends on extenuating circumstances. He may have a history of bullying/hurting other students. We don't know, but it might be an option available. It's very rare a student is expelled, but frequency and severity of misbehavior may play a role.
 
Old 09-21-2015, 08:20 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Anything can be a crime.

I do think the girl was assaulted. I also think many things can fall under the "assault" term. For example, one of my kids was bitten in kindergarten. He had a bruise the color of a plum on his upper arm. Visible teeth marks and everything. Should the biter have faced criminal charges? IMO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
13 year old = 4 year old.

This is the kind of logic we are dealing with.
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