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Old 11-18-2022, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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Foreigners working on visas?

I just read mention of an internal memo suggesting that only 25% of current Twitter engineers plan to stay.
That seems to be most likely.
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:28 AM
 
Location: DFW
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And if/when this whole experiment fails, Musk will be out $45 billion dollars and still be one of the richest people in the world. But 8,000 employees will be out of a job for no other reason than a billionaire's ego trip.
Tweeter has seldom made a profit and was losing money when Musk bought them. He's in the process of trying to save the company which can be difficult and painful.

If anyone else, Warren Buffet or whoever had bought this unprofitable company they would be going through the same process.
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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Tweeter has seldom made a profit and was losing money when Musk bought them. He's in the process of trying to save the company which can be difficult and painful.

If anyone else, Warren Buffet or whoever had bought this unprofitable company they would be going through the same process.
Probably, but many business leaders would be doing their best to show empathy and transparency at the same time as a sign of respect to the thousands of workers affected by the changes. Musk is demonstrating that his management style is out-of-touch with the expectations of his own employees and the work climate in general. Despite what all the Elon-bros would like to believe, having an apartheid trust fund doesn't automatically give a person business acumen.

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Old 11-18-2022, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Juneau, AK + Puna, HI
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Unless they wanted to talk about the origins of Covid, the effects of the vaccines, Hunter Bidens Laptop, FBI involvement in Jan 6, other cures for Covid and a hundred other topics that would get you banned.
I believe it was three or four strikes with Covid lies got you booted. You'd think people would learn to shut up with their BS, but apparently some did not.
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:41 AM
 
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From what I read, a few hundred walked away yesterday which still left thousands employed.

And he said from the beginning he was open to Work from Home if there was a legitimate reason.
But he backpedaled from that. Now anyone can work from home as long as their manager attests they are doing good work.

There were never "thousands" of engineers. There are critical positions manned by skeleton crew now.

"Before the Thursday deadline, Musk and his advisers held meetings with “critical” Twitter employees in an attempt to dissuade them from leaving, reports say. He also seemed to retreat on his stance on not allowing people to work from home in confusing messages about the company’s remote work policy."

"The number of engineers required to operate Twitter’s critical systems are down to two or even zero, the Washington Post reported. “I know of six critical systems (like ‘serving tweets’ levels of critical) which no longer have any engineers,” a former employee told the Post. “There is no longer even a skeleton crew manning the system. It will continue to coast until it runs into something, and then it will stop.”

"Although Musk has tried to mitigate the hemorrhaging staff by bringing in engineers and managers from his other companies, Tesla included, many of them are unfamiliar with the internal mechanisms of social media, reports state."

https://www.rollingstone.com/culture...gn-1234632854/
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:45 AM
 
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What no one has mentioned on this thread is that Musk is on the the autism spectrum. He revealed last year when he was hosting SNL that he has Asperger's.


https://www.inc.com/minda-zetlin/elo...e-grandin.html
It has been mentioned, in fact it was in one of my posts the other day.
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Old 11-18-2022, 10:47 AM
 
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Tweeter has seldom made a profit and was losing money when Musk bought them. He's in the process of trying to save the company which can be difficult and painful.

If anyone else, Warren Buffet or whoever had bought this unprofitable company they would be going through the same process.
I highly doubt Warren Buffet would have handled things this way. This is a clown show right now.
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Old 11-18-2022, 11:35 AM
 
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Probably, but many business leaders would be doing their best to show empathy and transparency at the same time as a sign of respect to the thousands of workers affected by the changes. Musk is demonstrating that his management style is out-of-touch with the expectations of his own employees and the work climate in general. Despite what all the Elon-bros would like to believe, having an apartheid trust fund doesn't automatically give a person business acumen.
There is no transparency after a sale. Ever.

Signed,
every single person who ever worked for a company that was bought
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Old 11-18-2022, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Niceville, FL
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What no one has mentioned on this thread is that Musk is on the the autism spectrum. He revealed last year when he was hosting SNL that he has Asperger's.
He’s doing a lot of damage to the reputation of rest of the folks who have autism and who actually do try to work through the process of not being a jerk every day.

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If anyone else, Warren Buffet or whoever had bought this unprofitable company they would be going through the same process.
Warren Buffett runs many companies that rely heavily on advertising and advertiser relationships to succeed. He would not have fired the entire advertising and marketing team, instantly cutting many key client relationships.

Buffet gets that the real customers on social media are not actually the end users but rather the advertisers willing to pay for access to carefully constructed demographic profiles of end users who are more likely to buy their stuff. (Facebook/Instagram is way, way ahead of Twitter on this- first step should have been finding old Facebook employees who could work the ‘back room’ in improving Twitter’s data collection and profiling)
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Old 11-18-2022, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Victory Mansions, Airstrip One
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"The number of engineers required to operate Twitter’s critical systems are down to two or even zero, the Washington Post reported. “I know of six critical systems (like ‘serving tweets’ levels of critical) which no longer have any engineers,” a former employee told the Post. “There is no longer even a skeleton crew manning the system. It will continue to coast until it runs into something, and then it will stop.
That is my thinking. After a few extended outages many people will start looking for an alternative.
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