Ron Paul's biggest mistake so far... (generation, Afghanistan, president, Obama)
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Mistake Number One, staying with the status quo even though it has been a proven failure.
Mistake Number Two, listening to someone who calls successful polices crackpot with out backing it up.
But you keep supporting failure. After all big government will save you. Why look how well our education system has done since the Department of Education has formed, compared to the rest of the world. Oh wait that's wrong "well" isn't the word since our standing has dropped. Ahhh I don't need examples to prove big government works, I can just say so right?
Yes, wanting to take the Nation back to 1776 IS a CRACKPOT idea, we have moved forward, Paul should try it sometime.
Then provide better candidates to select from. Candidates that want to pull our troops out of every country in the world regardless of their mission, stop taking the war on terror to the terrorists (meaning we fight them here after they attack, like 9-11, how did that work out), trash can every regulatory agency and trust that Big Business will just do the right thing, get rid of the Dept of education (always a first on the hit list for right-wingers), take away the right of Millions of women to make the choice on whether or not she carries a fetus to full term, give More tax breaks to the Rich and Big Business, cut social programs to the bone or cut them off altogether regardless of how many Millions of Americans are depending on that assistance to stay above water due to the current tough times, and believe the world is 6000 years old, just to name a few other CRACKPOT IDEAS, are not Presidential Material. Paul will never get the GOP nomination and he will never be President of the United States of America, and THAT is a Good Thing.
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Ron Paul's mistake is his inability to articulate (during debates or interviews) his views the moment the opportunities present themselves. He can do it on video's and prepared communications, but he seems to be all over the place when doing a live interview/debate.
Articulation has nothing to do with it. The big problem is his message. The GOP conservative base would never vote for someone who is isolationist and believes gay marriage, abortion, and drug laws be turned over to the states to decide. Conservatives hear that, and they perceive it as being passively pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and pro-drugs.
The party that gave us Bob Dole, Bush/Cheney, and John McCain will not support Ron Paul. Which is why Paul is perpetually stuck at 10-12% support nationwide--been that way for years--and why he will never win any primary or caucus during the primary season. Not even his homestate.
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Originally Posted by TheFix
Articulation has nothing to do with it. The big problem is his message. The GOP conservative base would never vote for someone who is isolationist and believes gay marriage, abortion, and drug laws be turned over to the states to decide. Conservatives hear that, and they perceive it as being passively pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, and pro-drugs.
The party that gave us Bob Dole, Bush/Cheney, and John McCain will not support Ron Paul. Which is why Paul is perpetually stuck at 10-12% support nationwide--been that way for years--and why he will never win any primary or caucus during the primary season. Not even his homestate.
I agree with your observations, but his inability to articulate on the cuff is hurting him.
Yes, wanting to take the Nation back to 1776 IS a CRACKPOT idea, we have moved forward, Paul should try it sometime.
I haven't heard anyone except the extreme left wing loons say that. You have zero proof. Just made up statements.
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Then provide better candidates to select from. Candidates that want to pull our troops out of every country in the world regardless of their mission, stop taking the war on terror to the terrorists (meaning we fight them here after they attack, like 9-11, how did that work out)
Read the CIAs report on why they attacked us. Ron Paul did and wants to bring the troops home in order for us to have a strong defense. Why comment if you don't know Ron Pauls policies. Oh that's right truth is treason
Thanks to Obama for getting us out of Afghanistan like he promised. oh wait he lied. Libya, Uganda where else is that war monger going to send troops? He has deployed many more troops than the previous war monger Bush did.
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trash can every regulatory agency and trust that Big Business will just do the right thing,
Another made up silly statement. Local control is best. The one size fits all from federal Government hasn't worked but keep going back to the poisonous well. Let the states handle it. Follow the Constitution.
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get rid of the Dept of education (always a first on the hit list for right-wingers),
LMAO Our education compared to the rest of the world has dropped since the D of E was established
Dont let that FACT sway you.
Teachers and parents have less control on the childs education because of the one size fits all Federal government. Ask a teacher please maybe you'll learn something.
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallas
take away the right of Millions of women to make the choice on whether or not she carries a fetus to full term,
When the life and health of the mother are in danger her rights take precedent no problem. Otherwise no.
You speak of rights but ignore the life and rights of the child. Without the right to life the others are meaningless
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give More tax breaks to the Rich and Big Business
the income tax code has too many loopholes. As far as Ron Paul is concerned cut taxes for everyone. The problem is too much taxation which funds big government, who takes away your rights. The Federal government employees who are in charge of regulations have grown from ~60000 in 1960 to ~250000 in 2010
Quit flip flopping on rights because you think you know better. Let the individual decide. As long as they do not step on the rights of others.
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cut social programs to the bone or cut them off altogether regardless of how many Millions of Americans are depending on that assistance to stay above water due to the current tough times
LMAO How many times can you be incorrect in one post. Ron Paul has said cut military spending, take that money and honor commitments. The system needs to be over hauled or we'll go broke and NO ONE will receive aid.
So you are all for no one in the future receiving aid. Good to know.
The cost of medicine has sky rocketed since government got involved.
Dont let that FACT sway you.
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and believe the world is 6000 years old, just to name a few other CRACKPOT IDEAS
A drama queen statement you made up. Prove it
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are not Presidential Material. Paul will never get the GOP nomination and he will never be President of the United States of America, and THAT is a Good Thing.
Because you are for the status quo and care not about the future of our children and out country. Good to know. First it's all for rights then it's all for controling others lives and ignore rights. Too many inconsistencies. Too much tyrannical behavior from the poster who would be King
I haven't heard anyone except the extreme left wing loons say that. You have zero proof. Just made up statements.
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Ahh, start with a thinly veiled insult. He wants to throw out over 200 years of progress and go back to the Constitution and start all over. Sounds like 1776 to me buckaroo, some of us have progressed since then.
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Then provide better candidates to select from. Candidates that want to pull our troops out of every country in the world regardless of their mission, stop taking the war on terror to the terrorists (meaning we fight them here after they attack, like 9-11, how did that work out)
Read the CIAs report on why they attacked us. Ron Paul did and wants to bring the troops home in order for us to have a strong defense. Why comment if you don't know Ron Pauls policies. Oh that's right truth is treason
Thanks to Obama for getting us out of Afghanistan like he promised. oh wait he lied. Libya, Uganda where else is that war monger going to send troops? He has deployed many more troops than the previous war monger Bush did.
We have a strong defense, or don’t you and Paul know that. Pulling our troops out of everywhere is isolationism and only leaves the US as the place to attack us. But then again some of us are not naive enough to believe that the terrorists will simply leave us alone if we pull out of the middle-east. You do know we have to still do business worldwide including the middle-east, those that hate us want that stopped also. To me you are giving in to their demands so with you they have already won. No troops are in Libya, a couple flew overhead but that is about it, and a couple of hundred peacekeepers in Uganda is not a war, reaching at its best. He did not Lie, someone else is, we know who that would be.
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallasfile:///C:/Users/kem/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (broken link)
trash can every regulatory agency and trust that Big Business will just do the right thing,
Another made up silly statement. Local control is best. The one size fits all from federal Government hasn't worked but keep going back to the poisonous well. Let the states handle it. Follow the Constitution.
BS, Local control, our Nations environment is not a Local concern it is all our concern. There we are back to 1776. We are ONE Nation, whether You like it or not, we live and follow rules that apply to all of us.
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallasfile:///C:/Users/kem/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (broken link)
get rid of the Dept of education (always a first on the hit list for right-wingers),
LMAO Our education compared to the rest of the world has dropped since the D of E was established
Dont let that FACT sway you.
Teachers and parents have less control on the childs education because of the one size fits all Federal government. Ask a teacher please maybe you'll learn something.
Another right-wing idea, don’t fix it, throw it away, and that solves the problem how? You speak of our education as a whole compared to the nations of th world then want to deal with it separately, you do know that those nations besting us are doing it as a nation not individual states. Learn from them.
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallasfile:///C:/Users/kem/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (broken link) take away the right of Millions of women to make the choice on whether or not she carries a fetus to full term,
When the life and health of the mother are in danger her rights take precedent no problem. Otherwise no.
You speak of rights but ignore the life and rights of the child. Without the right to life the others are meaningless
In other words you agree with taking away the rights of women, FYI, it is a Fetus until it can survive on its own.
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallasfile:///C:/Users/kem/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (broken link)
give More tax breaks to the Rich and Big Business
the income tax code has too many loopholes. As far as Ron Paul is concerned cut taxes for everyone. The problem is too much taxation which funds big government, who takes away your rights. The Federal government employees who are in charge of regulations have grown from ~60000 in 1960 to ~250000 in 2010
Quit flip flopping on rights because you think you know better. Let the individual decide. As long as they do not step on the rights of others.
Nice attempt at doubletalk there, but his own suggestions always come down to giving the rich and Big Business More tax breaks, typical right-winger Tea Bagger ideas, and you cannot deny they are there.
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Originally Posted by Casper in Dallasfile:///C:/Users/kem/AppData/Local/Temp/msohtmlclip1/01/clip_image001.gif (broken link)
cut social programs to the bone or cut them off altogether regardless of how many Millions of Americans are depending on that assistance to stay above water due to the current tough times
LMAO How many times can you be incorrect in one post. Ron Paul has said cut military spending, take that money and honor commitments. The system needs to be over hauled or we'll go broke and NO ONE will receive aid.
So you are all for no one in the future receiving aid. Good to know.
The cost of medicine has sky rocketed since government got involved.
Dont let that FACT sway you.
Thanks for admitting he will cut the military, more unemployment and less national defence, it seems you have talent for admitting what I already posted. Also thanks for admitting he will cut social programs to the core or eliminate them, after all we don’t really care for those that cannot care for themselves, that is the right-wing way. Reforming programs is a good idea, problem is may of us know what reform means to right-wingers, ending programs altogether, at that is not going to fly with the voters. Let That fact sink in, along with the Fact that Paul is going nowhere but home. A good thing.
So without being reactionary and angry about it, can you explain why when a pregnant woman is murdered, the accused can be brought up on a count of double murder?
It is an honest question that I don't think I've ever heard an answer to.
So without being reactionary and angry about it, can you explain why when a pregnant woman is murdered, the accused can be brought up on a count of double murder?
It is an honest question that I don't think I've ever heard an answer to.
It is an honest question andf rom what I can tell it is usually not done unless the woman is later in pregnacy and sometimes it is not done at all. The law is a funny thing in this country, try determining when someone is considered an adult and you get 5 different answers under the law, so logic is not always incorporated when laws are made.
being just another ego driven one man celebrity band wagon in the same vein of Ros Perot, and Ralph Nader.
Instead of party building Paul, Perot, and Nader relying on their own personal celebrity launched quixotic presidential campaigns without ever bothering to build a national party that could sustain or support their political points of view.
It is an honest question andf rom what I can tell it is usually not done unless the woman is later in pregnacy and sometimes it is not done at all. The law is a funny thing in this country, try determining when someone is considered an adult and you get 5 different answers under the law, so logic is not always incorporated when laws are made.
Cool, thanks for the insight, I appreciate it. And I know what you mean about being an "adult" under the law...guess everything cant be black and white.
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