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Old 07-18-2013, 01:35 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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It is still quite early in the process, however to say there is no other viable candidate is absolutely insane. In fact the Dem potential bench is a bit deeper than the GOP bench

Cuomo
Patrick
Schweitzer (likely why he isn't running for the Senate seat)
Hickenlooper
I guess I should have said, not nearly as many. Hillary is a household name everywhere, certainly Patrick is not, now the other 3. They may have a certain amount of name recognition (Cuomo the most) but it isn't anything like Hillary. The Republican names are more on an even stepping stone at this time.
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Old 07-18-2013, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Maryland about 20 miles NW of DC
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Looks like a Dem Gov. in Montana widely expected to run and win the open Senate seat is declining to run. Making a GOP pickup a strong likelihood.



Brian Schweitzer gives GOP Senate hopes new life - Manu Raju - POLITICO.com


The OP needs to remember what happened in 2012. Weren't Montana, Nprth Dakota, Missouri, Indiana, Wisconsin and Virginia supposed to be GOP gimmes. The GOP punted them all. The Democratic party ended up gaining two Senate Seats.
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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According to Nat Silver at 535, the Senate is a toss up.
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The OP needs to remember what happened in 2012. Weren't Montana, Nprth Dakota, Missouri, Indiana, Wisconsin and Virginia supposed to be GOP gimmes. The GOP punted them all. The Democratic party ended up gaining two Senate Seats.
We all know what happened in MO and IN. I don't think the rest were ever thought as being gimmes. I certainly will say again and again, right now it is a little too soon to pick who will win in 2014 with much certainty. Give it another 6 months. I would like to know where the idea came from the GOP would take Montana, ND, Wisconsin and VA, certainly where you got the idea they were gimmes?
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Old 07-19-2013, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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According to Nat Silver at 535, the Senate is a toss up.
As much as I don't take him or anyone else seriously. I know he is right much more often than wrong: I think he is close to what most would say, at this stage.
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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I don't think the tea Party had much to do with 2012. I think a couple of stupid candidates, cost us and themselves senate seats. In both cases they were asked to step down, well at least in Akins case but he wouldn't do it. Their remarks were not caused by the Tea Party. I am certainly not saying the GOP will take over the senate, I am just saying 2012 is not an example at all.
Akin and Mordouch were both tea party candidates. In Murdouch's case especially, the tea party went HARD after Lugar.
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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Well I really disagree about De but we will never know. Yes, they should have won NV. Anyone with a brain knows that. As for the GOP shocking the world in the house, I think you might want to check out your souses. The GOP outcome was never predicted to be anything like it was. BTW< maybe you have me mixed up with someone else: when did I ever say the GOP would take back the senate. I have pretty much said the opposite. I think it is way too soon to predict who is going to win or lose. I am only questioning those who make comments suggesting they are sure how it will come out. I will say, the GOP didn't do any better in the senate race in 2010 than they were expected to do, maybe not as well, but the house they certainly did.
Castle would have won fairly easily in Delaware for the Senate. Keep in mind Delaware has only one House seat, so he was a statewide office holder.
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Old 07-20-2013, 11:44 AM
 
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Castle would have won fairly easily in Delaware for the Senate. Keep in mind Delaware has only one House seat, so he was a statewide office holder.
Um, no.

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If GOP voters are feeling any buyer's remorse, they may take some solace in one surprising stat: despite pre-election polls that showed longtime Republican Rep. Mike Castle handily beating Coons in a hypothetical matchup, the voters who turned out today said they would still probably have sent Coons to Washington over Castle, backing him 44-43 percent.
Link: Exit Polls: the surprise in Delaware – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Also, Christine O'Donnell won independents 49% to 46% over Coons. Can't locate the link just now, but I remember that.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:13 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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according to nat silver at 535, the senate is a toss up.
538.
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Old 07-20-2013, 12:32 PM
 
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According to Nat Silver at 535, the Senate is a toss up.
I would agree with Nate in that case. He knows what he speaks of.

And if he were to say one way or the other it's tilting, I'd listen.
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