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Old 04-04-2016, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
He never said education would be free. You need to start with a factual position to create a valid argument.
I don't understand but then I am not college educated so I'm not very bright.

Can you skip forward to about 1:58 and translate what Bernie said so a dumbass like me can understand?

Thank you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YxHne6m_rU
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:27 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Sanders is 'capitalizing' on youthful idealism, lazy opportunists, and the very ignorant...sounds like a formula for success in today's America. His supporters will steer the country to the left but I expect it to be a slow and painful process.
In other words, the vast majority of those that voted for Obama.
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:30 PM
 
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I don't understand but then I am not college educated so I'm not very bright.

Can you skip forward to about 1:58 and translate what Bernie said so a dumbass like me can understand?

Thank you.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YxHne6m_rU
Actually I can't as I'm not where I can listen but Bernie has stated how he would pay for his program.

If it's paid for its not free is it?

Some partial YouTube clip is a lazy rebuttal.
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Public universities are like public high school was 50 years ago when the OP graduated.
To an extent you are correct. The decline of the American educational system has brought the level of modern university graduates to the level of high school graduates 50 years ago. If not even lower.
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:31 PM
 
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Let's tax the 1% for 99% of their income! Oh crap, they left the country.

Let's do it to the next group! Oh crap, they left too.

Let's tax the next 1%! Wait what, that's MY group? Hmmm, where can I immigrate?
Or lets build a banana republic like we are heading towards now, where the super rich can buy and sell the politicians as they please, get what they want and salt of the earth Americans have no say, no power and are shoved aside. Then it will be you and millions of other ordinary Americans who will have to think about moving. Wall Street controls our economic policy, health insurance and pharma companies control our health care policy and war corporations control our foreign policy. Thats not democracy. Thats oligarchy.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzCLiKMDiIk
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:50 PM
 
Location: On the Edge of the Fringe
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Sanders is 'capitalizing' on youthful idealism, lazy opportunists, and the very ignorant...sounds like a formula for success in today's America. His supporters will steer the country to the left but I expect it to be a slow and painful process.
In other words......

entitlement


He wants to give in to a mentality of "hey! the country owes me! Gimme all u got!"
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:52 PM
 
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In other words......

entitlement


He wants to give in to a mentality of "hey! the country owes me! Gimme all u got!"

You are confusing main Street with wall Street.
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:52 PM
 
Location: On the Edge of the Fringe
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Everyone I know who is a Bernie supporter fits two of these three categories:
  • Unemployed (and unmotivated) or a full time student
  • Expect people to give them stuff for free (ie they tip 5% or less when they go out to eat, or order delivery)
  • Get the majority of their news from social networking and Comedy Central

And one thing I notice about them all, they love to complain and they'll often call businesses to complain about perfectly fine service. It's kind of an expansion on point number 2 above, but they'll do things like yell and complain if they feel that their service is too slow, in the hope of getting something for free (ie conning the business) or getting staff fired. They tend to have little respect for people in service industry jobs, probably because most of them have little experience working real jobs. Just a personal observation.
I have noticed that too. Overall they seem to hold a very "entitled" attitude.

Maybe their parents raised them that way, if their parents raised them at all.
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Old 04-04-2016, 02:00 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Public universities are like public high school was 50 years ago when the OP graduated. A college education is as necessary as a high school education was 50 years ago, and public high school has been tuition free for 100 years+.

If we want to compete in the global economy, it is essential that everyone with the ability get the chance to get the education they need, regardless of their income. Tuition free public universities will only cost $70 billion while the war of choice, Iraq, cost 50 times that amount. 50 times! For what?

A better educated population is a population which pays more taxes and do better in society so they dont have to be dependent on welfare.
I couldn't disagree more. In a healthy ecconomy, there is a need for workers of all education levels. We already have too many people with college degrees. That is why college is so expensive; there is too much of an (unjustifiable) demand for it. When people start to realize they don't need a college degree for their intended line of work, colleges will have to start competing for students and they will lower tuition.
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Old 04-04-2016, 02:30 PM
 
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He never said education would be free. You need to start with a factual position to create a valid argument.
I agree; one does need to start from a factual position. Why didn't you?


Bernie Sanders on Education
Bernie believes that no student who is willing and able to go to college should be denied based on the income of their parents. The S. 1373: College for All Act, which he introduced, would make all public colleges and universities tuition-free. In an editorial for the Huffington Post, he asks: “Why do we accept a situation where hundreds of thousands of qualified people are unable to go to college because their families don’t have enough money?”

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