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Old 04-05-2016, 08:53 PM
 
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Thanks for linking to this article, I had no idea that in Denmark they levy a 180% (thats not a typo) sales tax on new cars! Good lord! I cant wait until we are like Denmark.
That's wrong, but we are talking about VOX here. A media outlet which has been gunning hard for Clinton the entire campaign. Smaller cars cost roughly the same in the US as in Denmark. Big gas guzzlers? Not so much. But they have 10 times better public transit of course.
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Old 04-05-2016, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Thanks for linking to this article, I had no idea that in Denmark they levy a 180% (thats not a typo) sales tax on new cars! Good lord! I cant wait until we are like Denmark.
Oh come on t, you don't have to run w/ the ball out to left field. Can we discuss one issue at a time?

Like maybe start another thread
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:00 PM
 
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That's wrong, but we are talking about VOX here. A media outlet which has been gunning hard for Clinton the entire campaign. Smaller cars cost roughly the same in the US as in Denmark. Big gas guzzlers? Not so much. But they have 10 times better public transit of course.
No, it appears to be completely correct, and its funny how you immediately jump to vilify VOX when I didn't even get it from there, I got it from clicking on one of the links in the story and then doing some further googling:

I clicked here to read about their high tax rates, then went to snopes, then googled the and got the Telegraph article below. 180% tax rates on new cars seems pretty legit to me.

What Can We Learn From Denmark?

Buying a car in Denmark: even a banger costs a fortune - Telegraph

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In common with everything else in Denmark, motoring isn’t cheap. New cars are taxed at 180 per cent and the impact trickles down to used car prices.
Teslas Hit by 180% Danish Tax on Cars as Green Goals Ditched - Bloomberg
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:03 PM
 
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Oh come on t, you don't have to run w/ the ball out to left field. Can we discuss one issue at a time?

Like maybe start another thread
Just pointing out something that jumped out at me, I mean thats without even digging into things. It just goes to show that there is a lot more under the covers of all this and all of these sweeping generalizations about how great these other countries are just seems like a case of the grass always being greener on the other side.
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:20 PM
 
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No, it appears to be completely correct, and its funny how you immediately jump to vilify VOX when I didn't even get it from there, I got it from clicking on one of the links in the story and then doing some further googling:

I clicked here to read about their high tax rates, then went to snopes, then googled the and got the Telegraph article below. 180% tax rates on new cars seems pretty legit to me.

What Can We Learn From Denmark?

Buying a car in Denmark: even a banger costs a fortune - Telegraph



Teslas Hit by 180% Danish Tax on Cars as Green Goals Ditched - Bloomberg
Its wrong. It does not apply to small cars with good mileage.

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I lived in The Netherlands for a couple of years. I'm not extremely well-versed in how their road tax works, but in general their cheapest cars were comparably-priced to our cheapest cars, after tax. I think you could get a basic subcompact for around $10k or so after converting to USD. Taxes shot up quickly for thirsty and heavy cars. The most-extreme price differential was for cheap, big-engined US cars. I think a Chevy Corvette that costs $60k in the US might cost $150k or so in NL, after taxes.
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Old 04-05-2016, 09:27 PM
 
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Its wrong. It does not apply to small cars with good mileage.

//www.city-data.com/forum/autom...honda-fit.html
Really? You are going to use another members post from CD as a "source" for this? Its their word against a UK newspaper and Bloomberg, I know who I'll trust in this case. The first red flag is your claim about "cars with good mileage" when the article from Bloomberg specifically calls out how Teslas are being hit with the 180% tax.

How about this too:

Explained: Denmark's crazy car registration tax - The Local

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The Nordic nation's Vehicle Registration Tax (Registreringsafgift – RA), though, represents an enormous outlay for motorists almost unheard of elsewhere. Until now, Danish car and motorcycle owners have paid RA on registering their vehicle of 105 percent of its value for vehicles bought for under 81,700 kroner, and 180 percent of the value for vehicles bought for over this price.
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:04 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Really? You are going to use another members post from CD as a "source" for this? Its their word against a UK newspaper and Bloomberg, I know who I'll trust in this case. The first red flag is your claim about "cars with good mileage" when the article from Bloomberg specifically calls out how Teslas are being hit with the 180% tax.

How about this too:

Explained: Denmark's crazy car registration tax - The Local
Holy crap. That is JUST what we need.


I guess taking from the rich isn't as easy as it sounds.
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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It's not about turning America into Denmark. Its about taking good ideas, some that we used to have, and applying them into an american model.

"I think we can look to other countries like Denmark and see what we can learn from them and apply it in a way that can work for America"

to the media, and uneducated voter means:

"LET'S BECOME DENMARK AS FAST AS POSSIBLE AND DO EVERY SINGLE THING THEY DO
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:17 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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It's not about turning America into Denmark. Its about taking good ideas, some that we used to have, and applying them into an american model.

"I think we can look to other countries like Denmark and see what we can learn from them and apply it in a way that can work for America"

to the media, and uneducated voter means:

"LET'S BECOME DENMARK AS FAST AS POSSIBLE AND DO EVERY SINGLE THING THEY DO
Absolutely there are Bernie supporters that cannot wait for us to be Denmark.
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Old 04-06-2016, 08:21 AM
 
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Well unless I'm totally missing something (feel free to fill me in) that seems to be the exact scenario outlined that prompted your "They aren't going anywhere" reply.
Yeah...you are missing the obvious. Seriously, does everything have to be spelled out to you?

How would moving to another state change anything?
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