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I couldn't disagree more. In a healthy ecconomy, there is a need for workers of all education levels. We already have too many people with college degrees. That is why college is so expensive; there is too much of an (unjustifiable) demand for it. When people start to realize they don't need a college degree for their intended line of work, colleges will have to start competing for students and they will lower tuition.
Yes and no. We have too many people with liberals arts degrees in fields such as underwater basket weaving. There's nothing wrong with these types of fields, but the world only needs so many sociologists, French experts, interior designers, or art majors. We need more students to study more science, technology and engineering fields. There are plenty of jobs in these fields here in the US that companies need people to fill, and often they can't find anyone to fill them so they're forced to import workers.
And that's the problem with making college free for all. Many people shouldn't really even go to college. College has become a place in our culture now where kids go "to find themselves". The honest truth is, if you don't know what you want to do by age 18, you're certainly not alone, but it would serve you better to just find an entry level job while you make that decision. From there, study and learn by watching others, and perhaps when you're ready go to school to complete a program or even enroll in a trade school. Society would be much better served.
Bernie believes that no student who is willing and able to go to college should be denied based on the income of their parents. The S. 1373: College for All Act, which he introduced, would make all public colleges and universities tuition-free. In an editorial for the Huffington Post, he asks: “Why do we accept a situation where hundreds of thousands of qualified people are unable to go to college because their families don’t have enough money?”
I covered this.....it seems in every thread I have to repeat myself over and over and over and over and yet someone will still bring up the same lazy point.
Sanders presented a way to pay for this. Do you understand that something that is paid for is not free?
I covered this.....it seems in every thread I have to repeat myself over and over and over and over and yet someone will still bring up the same lazy point.
Sanders presented a way to pay for this. Do you understand that something that is paid for is not free?
It's a straw man argument by comrade Bernie. Nobody is denied access to public universities based on the income of their parents. That's why we have Pell grants and low interest federal loans, along with a plethora of scholarships that are available to anyone who is non-male, and preferably non-white.
When his entire proposal is based on a lie, there's a problem and it really goes to show how dumbed down and ignorant of facts this country has become. And no, more free college is not going to fix that.
It's a straw man argument by comrade Bernie. Nobody is denied access to public universities based on the income of their parents. That's why we have Pell grants and low interest federal loans, along with a plethora of scholarships that are available to anyone who is non-male, and preferably non-white.
For a Strawman, It seems to work pretty well for Germany.
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When his entire proposal is based on a lie, there's a problem and it really goes to show how dumbed down and ignorant of facts this country has become. And no, more free college is not going to fix that.
No one has argued that you can't go the high interest debt route. Just the same as you can go $120,000 in debt for your cancer treatments if you don't want to pay for insurance.
The argument is there are better ways. I find the argument that wasting trillions and going in debt to do it to fight stupid wars is good but funding higher education is somehow stupid as being pretty odd.
I don't like free college for all feel good program. I got my education overseas, so did my brothers. Where is the fairness for folks like us?
HOWEVER
Iraq, Afghan war costs to top $4 trillion. The U.S. wars in Afghanistan and Iraq will cost taxpayers $4 trillion to $6 trillion, taking into account the medical care of wounded veterans and expensive repairs to a force depleted by more than a decade of fighting, according to a new study by a Harvard researcher
Sanders's campaign estimates that the plan for free college would cost $75 billion per year.
1,000 Billions equals 1 Trillion
So in this case, Bernie sanders seems like a sane individual compare to the experienced politicians who got us in endless war and still lying about it.
Sanders is 'capitalizing' on youthful idealism, lazy opportunists, and the very ignorant...sounds like a formula for success in today's America. His supporters will steer the country to the left but I expect it to be a slow and painful process.
Even if Sanders somehow manages to become President, I don't see him getting very far as young liberals don't seem to care about voting in local and state elections. What's worse is that Sanders is not the type of guy who can compromise or back down from his own viewpoints when dealing with a Republican congress.
What makes you cheapskates think that we liberals will not take control of the Senate and House along with electing Bernie Sanders? With that control we will reverse decades of economic stagnation for working Americans and provide a prosperous future for all of us, not just the owners of the Military contractors and their Congressional dependent's.
College loans can be covered by a surcharge on the recipient's income tax, industry can be protected by countervailing tariffs, taxes can be collected from the Wall Street monopolists and jobs created by repairing and rebuilding our infrastructure.
For a Strawman, It seems to work pretty well for Germany.
No one has argued that you can't go the high interest debt route. Just the same as you can go $120,000 in debt for your cancer treatments if you don't want to pay for insurance.
The argument is there are better ways. I find the argument that wasting trillions and going in debt to do it to fight stupid wars is good but funding higher education is somehow stupid as being pretty odd.
Yeah, it worked for the one time homogeneous German culture without a legacy of race and minority problems. When you don't do well academically, they don't give away a free education to those who flunk. They use an academic rationing system. Think its all just going to pan out equally?
To fix the problem , which is prices rising faster than the inflation rate, all one had to do was stop da guberment guaranteed credit which added credit fuel. Raising academic standards would have reduced the demand. Adding credit fuel to a product with pricing power will just make the price go up. For the poor, academic scholarships would work great. In fact it would be a marketable commodity since it would be proof it wasn't a rich boy on his third try.
All college is being used for is handicap principle anyway. Employer don't care that you lifted 500lbs. They just want to know you can. So those who are able to graduate simply overcome the handicap. We hardly learn a thing these days in college.
I have been saying that about socialists for 2.6 decades now.
On this forum, such commentary gets only hate responses.
I think many who frequent this forum are reactionary., uneducated (or unintelligent) and maybe underemployed which leaves them time tovent their angst on the politics threads.
Sanders is trying to capitalize on anger.
Not a fan of Bernie, but he advocates the same for many decades. Sanders is not Donald Trump and doesn't capitalize on anything, except the lack of leadership.
So your point is educated people are too stupid and lazy to understand?
So having to explain it all the time isn't a sign of it?
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That is NOT how it works. Maybe you should do a little more research. In countries that already have these programs not everyone gets to go. As an aside, I've noted this before....some States already have these programs and they are hugely popular.
In WV we have the Promise Scholarship. Meet the grade requirements and tuition instate is covered
You've came to a false conclusion and want me to counter it. I do not have to. Educated people are indeed smart enough to understand what is going on and these programs are already popular.
which is why you have to explain it all the time?
Again stop saying free all the time and it might help. Still doesn't change the problem.
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We need to address the jealousy angle? Personally I hope he forgives all past debt and tells the banks to eat it as the cost of taxpayers saving their asses.
The de-capitalization problem of an asset. If that means jealousy to you then I am not at this time jealous of your diction.
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Educated.....I'm educated.
Not in economics
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