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FOLKS THIS IS THE ****ING COUNTRY THEY ARE OUTRIGHT FRAUDING THE ELECTION IN!!
If you care about this country getting the president they were going to vote in VOTE TRUMP! Let everyone know you voted trump and don't ****ing let the establishment tell you you voted otherwise!!!!! This is it, THIS RIGHT NOW, is the election where america is either able to vote in who they really want or can't.
So GOP's crooked politicians are now resorting to stealing delegates to thwart will of the people.
They don't calculate the caucus vote by "counties," many of which are virtually uninhabited. They do it by congressional district. Here are the rules of this process, which have been public for quite a long time:
The delegates are selected at seven District Conventions (all this is covered at the link above, with the results) who are later formally confirmed at the State Convention, which was held during the weekend just ended.
For some reason, the Trump campaign chose not to participate. Of course nobody stopped him from doing so, and if he suggests he was impeded in any way, he will be lying through his teeth.
Actually, Trump had a State Chair (James Baker) in charge of Colorado, but he was fired by Trump Campaign Manager Corey Lowendowski last week in connection with the hiring of Trump's new Convention Manager Paul Manafort. Here is an article at NBC News that covers that whole meltdown in the Trump campaign:
Trump's failure in Colorado is due entirely to the actions of his own campaign. Once again, Trump is crying "unfair" like a spoiled child that is accustomed to getting its way by pitching a public fit. That is NOT how the rules work in the Republican nominating process. Nor should they.
Same with the Democrat Party: After win after win by Sanders we must read about the huge insurmountable delegate lead that Clinton has.
Where the Hell did she get them?
If the party billionaire-bosses want to APPOINT candidates they could do it on November 1 and save us all from a lot of annoying noise.
I don't like games that are fixed, so I will sit this one out.
3 million more voters voted for Hilary than Bernie thus far. She has won more than Bernie plain and simple, even without superdelegates the dnc version of unbound delegates.
Btw shouldn't Trump had known this unbound delegate election fight was going to happen, how did Cruz catch him with his pants down, where are all the smart people that he surrounds himself with.
This is total nonsense. I live in New York. I'm also an enrolled Democrat. The last day to register to vote in the New York primary was March 25, 2016, which was about 2 weeks ago. Since NY has a closed primary, you have to enroll in a party to vote its primary, and you had to do that by March 25, too. Moreover, the dates were publicized everywhere: in newspapers and on radio and tv through new stories as well as non-partisan public service announcements. This process and the dates are set by state law, not by either political party. NOBODY in the NY Democratic Party ... or the NY Republican Party, either ... attempted to "screw" any candidate, so go stuff your bull manure and fake outrage where the sun doesn't shine.
BTW, voters can still register to vote in the general election in New York until some time in October, 2016.
The deadline for switching parties in NY for already-registered voters was October 9th, 2015. For someone who claims the dates were publicized everywhere, it's rather ironic you don't seem to know this... guess it wasn't publicized everywhere. March 25th was an extended deadline for first time voters. It was added at the last minute to allow people to deal with some irregularities that cropped up.
People who were registered as independents because they had little allegiance with the parties and national primaries are often settled by the time they reach NY will not be participating in this primary, and that's a lot of people. And it's a shame since this is a rare year where both parties have a competitive primary at this point still.
Once again, Trump is crying "unfair" like a spoiled child that is accustomed to getting its way by pitching a public fit. That is NOT how the rules work in the Republican nominating process. Nor should they.
The majority of people in both parties do not approve of the corrupt, unrepresentative
and voter-nullifying selection processes.
You're on the wrong side of history if you think the present systems are sustainable.
They are not sustainable. Both will change their methods or be taken out.
The majority of people in both parties do not approve of the corrupt, unrepresentative
and voter-nullifying selection processes.
You're on the wrong side of history if you think the present systems are sustainable.
They are not sustainable. Both will change their methods or be taken out.
false equivalency. Hillary is leading among pledged delegates and popular vote. The only voter nullification would be if Bernie somehow convinced superdelegates to ignore what the voters are clearly saying.
But the Colorado Republican caucus was certainly a bit of a mess given that the voters had no real say at all since they didn't even do a presidential preference poll at the caucuses.
The majority of people in both parties do not approve of the corrupt, unrepresentative
and voter-nullifying selection processes.
You're on the wrong side of history if you think the present systems are sustainable.
They are not sustainable. Both will change their methods or be taken out.
Trump does not care about how "representative" these processes are. He only cares about whether he won or not.
And I am not commenting on the adequacy of the process. I think the Colorado party plans to improve that process before the next election, so there is probably nobody that was completely happy with it.
However, the process and the rules that they used were established well before the Trump phenomenon came upon us. Flawed though it clearly is, the biggest flaw of all was Trump's decision to not actively participate in it. Once again, he has brought this outcome on himself. He and his campaign team are to blame for his poor showing here.
Trump does not care about how "representative" these processes are. He only cares about whether he won or not.
And I am not commenting on the adequacy of the process. I think the Colorado party plans to improve that process before the next election, so there is probably nobody that was completely happy with it.
However, the process and the rules that they used were established well before the Trump phenomenon came upon us. Flawed though it clearly is, the biggest flaw of all was Trump's decision to not actively participate in it.
actually, it was changed this year - not specifically due to Trump, just the fact that there was a 17 person clown car. The CO Republican party didn't want to have to follow the national GOP rules of having their delegates be bound to the winner of the caucus as they recognized that with a caucus fairly early on in the process, they could be bound to a candidate who was no longer in the race. So they eliminated the presidential preference poll, even though that had previously been a part of the caucus process here.
But in any case, that change was made almost a year ago, so a smart and detail oriented businessman should have been prepared for it, rather than seemingly blindsided by it.
3 million more voters voted for Hilary than Bernie thus far. She has won more than Bernie plain and simple, even without superdelegates the dnc version of unbound delegates.
Btw shouldn't Trump had known this unbound delegate election fight was going to happen, how did Cruz catch him with his pants down, where are all the smart people that he surrounds himself with.
In a scenario where Bernie wins a majority of pledged delegates, the popular vote lead he'd get from the mid-atlantic states and from California would likely cancel out the 2.4 million lead that Clinton currently has. The issue is more over obfuscation on the democratic side than disenfranchisement. There are states where disenfranchisement may have played a role (AZ, FL), but to a large extent Bernie's problem is that a third of his supporters only found out about him in the past couple months. He was polling at 60-40 with Clinton when the first states voted and put him in a delegate hole, and he's polling at 50-50 now, but it's too late.
Having so few debates (only 3 before the first states voted), and having most of the debates on holiday weekends or big game nights was a deliberate tactic of erasure, meant to protect the coronation of Hillary Clinton, and it did its job.
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