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Has this ever happened before in any state? Because I am seriously freaking out over this. This sounds absolutely insane, then CNN reports if like this
Even Cruz fans, Democrats, undecided folks should be freaking out over this. WTF is going on? This China where the party tells us who is elected. WTF!!!! Everyone push this story today to everyone!
As a Cruz supporter, I was initially confused and concerned about what transpired, UNTIL I researched WHY this took place and logic and reason overtook emotion and disinformation.
While this is all true, people are not going to continue to belong to a party that give them no say in who they will nominate. The GOP can do this but it is most certainly not in their best long term interest.
If you are a member of the Republican party, you DO have a say if you participate. Saying you vote GOP and always have does not equate to an active member of the GOP.
People that keep saying that they are "leaving the party" mean nothing more than they won't "vote" republican. Be honest, how many district meetings for the GOP have you EVER attended? Have you worked actively to get a State, local or National GOP candidate elected by volunteering to phone bank or walk precincts or deliver literature?
This topic isn't about the general election.
We're talking about how Trump will either transform
or collapse the GOP. One will happen, on that we agree.
Frankly it seems like the outcome of the presidential race is already pretty much determined. Republicans are damned if they do, damned if they don't. If they allow Trump to be the nominee many conservatives won't vote for him, and he'll scare democrats to the polls in droves, and he could get curbstomped by Hillary in possibly the biggest dem victory since the 60s. That could pose a huge problem for many Republicans downticket. There are entire states where they could be wiped out. But if they try to replace Trump with someone more electable they'll be disenfranchising millions of voters, and it will be toxic for whoever the party nominates. Cruz would be a competent candidate at least, but he'll lose the swing voters to Hillary. Even someone who would have good odds against Hillary if they'd won fair and square like Romney or Ryan or Kasich would have a large percentage of voters protesting the RNC's choice and they too would likely lose because of it.
Basically their only hope at winning* is an indictment during the general election season, which is why Obama is rushing the investigation along as quickly as possible to prevent that. The dems will try to make sure if Clinton has any legal troubles that pose a problem for her electability they are found before the convention, so that if it happens they can wash their hands and nominate Sanders. I'd put 75% odds on there being no indictment and Clinton being the next president though.
This used to happen more often in the past, where one party just failed to field a competitive candidate in some years. It looks like that could happen this year.
*Edit - Ah, there is one other possibility. If Sanders were to come back from long odds and win a pledged delegate majority in the democratic primary and the DNC shut him down with the superdelegates. That could lead to a very bizarre unique situation where both parties rejected the winner of their primaries in the same year. It could throw the general election into utter chaos.
We don't know what would have happened, had there been a primary.
Indeed. And we will never know because the political elite have decide the rest of us don't get a say. I can't imagine why people continue to argue in favor of such a system.
And with this sort of nonsense, the GOP simply guarantees they will lose the best opportunity to take full control of the Federal government in quite some time.
I never intended to vote Trump and your claim is inaccurate. Trump has NEVER had 100% of the votes cast in the GOP primaries, so how can you say that "they were going to vote in" Trump?
Any vote for Cruz is a vote for an unelected president. Anyone who votes for him should be completely ashamed. Since when did you need 100% of the votes to get voted in? A little hard to tell how many votes Trump would have got when the running establishment is willing to do anything and everything including straight up not let people vote.
Slavery was in place for several hundred years. i.e. It's not argument for keeping a corrupt system.
Now slavery is the same thing as a private organization's rule making for its own organization?? OR do you mean that requiring your candidate to abide by the same rules as all other nominees is enslavement of him?
The media is making it sound like Cruz is taking Trump's delegates, but I thought this was on the second ballot 'if' there is a contested convention?
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