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Old 04-12-2016, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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I live in the USA and I say delegates that weren't voted for DON'T ****ING COUNT! All of colorado's delegates should be removed. They didn't want to take a vote because Trump would have won? Then just bow out of the process.
Well, sadly for you, you're not a rule maker in the RNC and its their show, not yours. They are deciding who their nominee will be. The fact that you live in the USA is irrelevant. As others mentioned, if you don't like it join the party (if you're not already a member) and try to work to change the rules. The GOP and the Democratic Party are not government entities. They can and do make their own rules on who they nominate.

People could go form the Game of Thrones Party if they want to, and nominate the person who wins a joust if that's what their rules are. Your opinion wouldn't change that. The Green Party usually nominates a candidate. Do you ever hear about their primary?
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I don't care if they count in colorado, they just don't get to count in the rest of the process. No delegates that weren't voted for should be leaving their states in the united states of america.
Actually, they do count. Sorry 'bout that.
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:26 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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I don't care if they count in colorado, they just don't get to count in the rest of the process. No delegates that weren't voted for should be leaving their states in the united states of america.
Sigh..... Political parties are not part of the government, they are private entities. It has been rule in multiple court cases that, provided they do not discriminate based on a protected class, political parties have a right to choose their nominee based on any criteria they want, it is part of their "freedom of association right" as established by the 1st amendment. If you don't like how a party chooses their nominee, exercise your freedom of association rights and quit the party. You can always start your own party, with your own rules.

No one is stopping you from excercising your voting rights. No one.
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:28 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Could someone give me a really good reason why voter ID is a bad idea? I have never heard one argument that holds any water. Anyone can get an government ID. All you have to do is go to the DMV> and don't say, for some it is too far. We live in a somewhat rural area; our closest DMV is about 20 miles away. Almost anyone can find someone willing to help them get an ID. My husband doesn't drive anymore, but he did get his license renewed on his birthday. the only reason: for Id purposes.
It's an effort at voter suppression which we saw the legislator say on television.


When my 92 y/o father couldn't use his military ID - it pi$$ed him off. And he was a strong Republican.


When college kids can't use their student photo ID's theres a problem.
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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sorry but the time to object would have been last year, when these rules were put in place by the Colorado Republican Party, not to whine now because your preferred candidate couldn't be bothered to figure out what he needed to do. While you may not like the process the state party decided to use, they had their own reasons for doing so and this is a valid process according to the national party.

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Old 04-12-2016, 08:29 AM
 
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Former Colorado state Republican party chairman Ryan Call talked to Laura Ingraham today to explain the delegation-selection process works and how it "cuts out any semblance of democracy or the popular will." Call said the statewide convention that chooses the delegates reinforces all the worst stereotypes of the party.

"The very time we should be opening up our doors and being more open and transparent, and welcoming people into our Party, we’ve essentially made the decision to close it off and make it more cumbersome and more difficult. And, to prevent the ability of people to have their voice heard in this process. You’re reinforcing all of the very worst stereotypes about the Party and I, frankly, am very concerned about the way voters are going to feel," Call told Ingraham.


Former CO GOP Chair: Message We're Sending Is "Your Vote Doesn't Matter And Your Voice Doesn't Count" | Video | RealClearPolitics
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:30 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Well, sadly for you, you're not a rule maker in the RNC and its their show, not yours. They are deciding who their nominee will be. The fact that you live in the USA is irrelevant. As others mentioned, if you don't like it join the party (if you're not already a member) and try to work to change the rules. The GOP and the Democratic Party are not government entities. They can and do make their own rules on who they nominate.

People could go form the Game of Thrones Party if they want to, and nominate the person who wins a joust if that's what their rules are. Your opinion wouldn't change that. The Green Party usually nominates a candidate. Do you ever hear about their primary?
The Libertarians only have 5 states where they even bother to hold primaries or voting at all. Their candidate is chosen by convention delegates also, not the vote. Where is the outrage over their selection process?
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:33 AM
 
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The Libertarians only have 5 states where they even bother to hold primaries or voting at all. Their candidate is chosen by convention delegates also, not the vote. Where is the outrage over their selection process?
I'm not sure about what 5 you are talking about........I'm going to the (L) convention in a couple weeks in WV. I don't get to vote as I'm not registered as an (L), still an (I) but any registered (L) can show up and vote.
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:34 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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sorry but the time to object would have been last year, when these rules were put in place by the Colorado Republican Party, not to whine now because your preferred candidate couldn't be bothered to figure out what he needed to do. While you may not like the process the state party decided to use, they had their own reasons for doing so and this is a valid process according to the national party.
You do realize I'm not the one objecting right?
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Old 04-12-2016, 08:35 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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Former Colorado state Republican party chairman Ryan Call talked to Laura Ingraham today to explain the delegation-selection process works and how it "cuts out any semblance of democracy or the popular will." Call said the statewide convention that chooses the delegates reinforces all the worst stereotypes of the party.

"The very time we should be opening up our doors and being more open and transparent, and welcoming people into our Party, we’ve essentially made the decision to close it off and make it more cumbersome and more difficult. And, to prevent the ability of people to have their voice heard in this process. You’re reinforcing all of the very worst stereotypes about the Party and I, frankly, am very concerned about the way voters are going to feel," Call told Ingraham.


Former CO GOP Chair: Message We're Sending Is "Your Vote Doesn't Matter And Your Voice Doesn't Count" | Video | RealClearPolitics
If he, of all people, thought there was something wrong with it, he was in a position to do something about it but chose not to. Don't tell me he didn't know, he is part of the party elite in that state. Where was his outcry back when this got proposed and then again when it got passed? That's right, not a peep. What a load of crap.
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