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Old 06-13-2016, 01:39 PM
 
Location: New York
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This shooter was an American Citizen. Too late, Mr. Trump. Deport all American Muslims? What about American Citizens who are Christian and then convert to Islam? We recently had a celebrated converted (Cassius Clay) American Muslim pass away. Would Mr. Trump deport him?

Mr. Trump issued a statement saying that if those Orlando victims had been armed lives would have been saved!!! How many? 103 patrons should have been carrying??? Maybe he can issue a Presidential decree that every baby born in the US gets issued their own free gun at 18????

Ironically, my NRA husband, who has a Florida Carry but does not carry, was at a Ft. Myers Gun Show yesterday. "No LOADED Firearms allowed inside." Imagine that? A Gun Show is a Gun Free Zone. lol The Republican Convention will be also, except for Security. So if you plan to attend Trump's Convention, better keep your guns at HOME.

Are you living in a tunnel?

Do you know what "Radical Islamic terrorism" is?
  • Obama refuses to say it. All Obama has done to prevent any type of Terrorism is talk to the countries harboring Terrorists.
  • Hillary today just said Radical Islamic terrorism for the first time.
  • Trump is right again, he's being talking about this from the beginning.

Trump 2016



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Old 06-13-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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Why would anyone think that Trump has anything more to offer to keep one safe than Clinton? Sure, Trump is for using fascist powers to keep Muslims from entering the country. The Orlando attacker was born in NY and wouldn't have been kept out.

Hillary wants to restrict firearms, which makes much more sense in view of this attack. Keeping guns out of the hands of crazy people is much more practical and doable than the unconstitutional practice of banning Muslims.

Trump tries to get votes exploiting your fears while Clinton gets votes by appealing to your brain.
And with this statement, you have just explained the essence of Trump supporters.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Strength? Hillary? Haha. Nope.

Remember this woman voted to destroy Iraq. That led to what we see now.
You are stretching reality beyond recognition. The vote on Iraq was to grant President Bush the authority to use military force if a peaceful solution couldn't be reached. Of course, once the vote was taken, Bush immediately used his new authority to plan an invasion.

Your beef is with Bush, not the Senate. The worst that you can accuse Mrs. Clinton is trusting Bush.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:40 PM
 
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Me either. I'm voting for Trump with both hands.
We need competence. Obama's incompetence is obvious in all levels.
It's time to clean house.
When we vote for Trump, we're also voting for superior personnel.
I disagree with you. Not liking President Obama does not mean Trump will be any better. Why should I vote for Trump given the following below? :

-Trump says he doesn't fact check. This was in response to being called out for retweeting an anti-Black tweet from a Neo-Nazi sympathizer.

-Trump claimed he wouldn't denounce the KKK because he knows nothing about the KKK. It's common sense that the KKK is basically a terrorist group.

-Trump also quoted a fascist dictator, Benito Mussolini. We all know where fascism took people.

Trump doesn't sound competent either.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Why would anyone think that Trump has anything more to offer to keep one safe than Clinton? Sure, Trump is for using fascist powers to keep Muslims from entering the country. The Orlando attacker was born in NY and wouldn't have been kept out.

Hillary wants to restrict firearms, which makes much more sense in view of this attack. Keeping guns out of the hands of crazy people is much more practical and doable than the unconstitutional practice of banning Muslims.

Trump tries to get votes exploiting your fears while Clinton gets votes by appealing to your brain.
respectfully disagree with you.

I think maybe desperate people make desperate decisions. I think many Trump supporters want to see improvement in their daily life. No more no less. Are they making the right decision voting for Trump? Maybe yes maybe no. But there are many different kinds of Trump supporters.

Hillary Cllinton supporters, I think most of them are afraid of "change". Can't really blame them for it. How many Hillary Clinton supporters are really excited about her? I doubt there are many.

Intelligence has nothing to do with it.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Are you living in a tunnel?

Do you know what "Radical Islamic terrorism" is?
  • Obama refuses to say it. All Obama has done to prevent any type of Terrorism is talk to the countries harboring Terrorists.
  • Hillary today just said Radical Islamic terrorism for the first time.
  • Trump is right again, he's being talking about this from the beginning.

Trump 2016



.
Why does it matter what words are used? I look at that as a non-issue and a distraction.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:47 PM
 
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Omar Mir Seddique Mateen (couldn't possibly have terrorist ties with a name like that)
So, Mohammed Ali---terrorist?

Kareem Abdul Jabbar---terrorist?

When you start judging people based on their names, you are displaying bigotry, and you are probably going to end up being mistaken.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:55 PM
 
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An American citizen who had been previously interviewed by the FBI... twice. Both investigations were closed.

What was his name?

Omar Mir Seddique Mateen (couldn't possibly have terrorist ties with a name like that)

"The FBI first became aware of Mateen in 2013 when he made inflammatory comments to co-workers alleging possible terrorist ties," Hopper said.
The investigation was closed, Hopper said, after investigators "were unable to verify the substance of his comments."


In 2014, the FBI interviewed Mateen again over possible connections with an American suicide bomber.
"We determined that contact was minimal and did not constitute a substantive relationship or threat at that time," Hopper said.

Omar Mateen, Orlando gunman, pledged allegiance to ISIS, official says - CNN.com

... and the nightclub was a gun free zone too.
Just sayin'
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:58 PM
 
Location: FL
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That's why they are busy trying to label him as incompetent. He has a plan. She is business as usual and I think we just saw that doesn't work. Better to keep troublemakers out before they can cause trouble.
No one has to label him incompetent, because he is doing the job all by himself. Every time he opens his mouth.
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Old 06-13-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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Two gay acquaintances I have spoken to plan to change their vote to Trump from Hillary over this massacre, but I doubt they would tell their fellow gays about their decision. They would probably be harassed unmercifully.

If gays care about their community, they have no other choice than Trump. Hillary is as big a Muslim extremist apologist and protector of these evil people as Obama.
I have some gay people on my Facebook and all are voting for Trump. Not sure if they were leaning that way before yesterday but they posted that after the massacre.

Last week a gay person who broke his nose last week when he attended a Trump rally said on TV that coming out of the closet was easier than coming out that they will support Trump.

Now that may change...or not but the important thing is how will they vote on election day and maybe some will lie to friends and not admit they voted for Trump.

But they view of LBGT may change after Trumps speech and how many other Rep. feel.
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