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Old 09-16-2016, 09:52 AM
 
Location: new yawk zoo
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Ugh. Can't bring myself to vote for her, no way in hades I'm voting for Trump, either. Like others have said, they both suck.
its the voting game with the least fleas!

 
Old 09-16-2016, 09:57 AM
 
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New Polltracker data
Clinton and Trump now tied at 43.8% each nationwide. First time this has happened this election.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 11:02 AM
 
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As I posted on another forum, the polls are actually bad news for Trump. Now five days after Clinton's fainting spell and pneumonia, that event has been baked into the polls. Despite that Trump has been unable to build a commanding lead. If he was a strong candidate he should be up a solid +5 points and 300 EV's, but he isn't.

Assuming Clinton has a strong debate performance, people will see she's healthy and fit to serve. I expect her to regain 2 or 3 points from here and retake a small but decisive lead. The polls today may be Trump's high water mark.
You are assuming Clinton's health is the only reason Trump is where he is. Trump's momentum started to build a few weeks prior to that event.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 11:39 AM
 
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You are assuming Clinton's health is the only reason Trump is where he is. Trump's momentum started to build a few weeks prior to that event.
It's a mixture of the two most likely. He was gaining back lost support due to his campaign professionalism and she was losing support due to health and other issues. If it reverts back to the mean next week then it should prove that one.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 11:41 AM
 
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Once we get some VA poll numbers out, it's over.
Already happened, Trump is still behind. Lots of states look good for Trump as potential targets. Virginia isn't likely to be one of them though.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 11:43 AM
 
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"At this point, what does it matter?" Now it's reversed and the Hilldebeast supporters are saying polls don't matter when a few months ago, they were already celebrating Clinton's victory because of the polls. Hypocrites?
Yeah it's been a 4 month trend really. Trump unskewing in June, Clinton unskewing in July, Trump unskewing in August, and now back to Clinton.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 01:23 PM
 
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Trump now for the first time takes the lead in Polltracker
Trump by .1%. Not much but it continues to be the trend.

New Florida update. Trump up by 1.8% as of 1 hour ago.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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Already happened, Trump is still behind. Lots of states look good for Trump as potential targets. Virginia isn't likely to be one of them though.
I agree. Too many people live there that work in Washington. Virginia isn't what it used to be.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 02:08 PM
 
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Trump now for the first time takes the lead in Polltracker
Trump by .1%. Not much but it continues to be the trend.

New Florida update. Trump up by 1.8% as of 1 hour ago.
Indeed, but their model is very sensitive to new polls which can be bad. It's why I like the more mathematical ones to look at.
 
Old 09-16-2016, 02:09 PM
 
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I agree. Too many people live there that work in Washington. Virginia isn't what it used to be.
On the flip side the midwest and Pennsylvania are all trending Republican. Give it a few election cycles and the east coast will be Democrat and the Midwest will be Republican.
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