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I think the factor there is that demographic changes in North Carolina are causing the state to become blue at a much faster rate than those other states. IA and OH are largely static, politically. NV is a bellwether state - it's only voted for the loser of the Presidential election once in the last century, the only state to accomplish that feat (1976, it went for Ford). FL is growing fast and may be drifting blue, but only slowly.
North Carolina? The population there is booming in Charlotte and the Research Triangle, and its largely driven by young liberal transplants from elsewhere.
Basically, North Carolina is about a decade behind Virginia regarding shifting political demographics. And Virginia has gone from Obama carrying it by 1% less than he carried the country as a whole in 2008 to carrying it by exactly his national margin in 2012. In 2013, for the first time in 40 years, the party that controls the White House also won the Virginia gubernatorial campaign when Terry McAuliffe ran an unabashedly liberal campaign. Now pretty much everyone understands that Virginia is on the bluer side of purple. North Carolina is following the same pattern.
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"North Carolina? The population there is booming in Charlotte and the Research Triangle, and its largely driven by young liberal transplants from elsewhere."
Brunswick County is pretty big and is the fastest growing county in the state (and has been for years)
Most people moving in, at least in my area, are from MD, CT, NY, PA, etc. are moving down south BECAUSE of the high taxes etc. and are repubs which is why NC turned repub and outed the dems who had an 100 year stronghold on the state.
"North Carolina? The population there is booming in Charlotte and the Research Triangle, and its largely driven by young liberal transplants from elsewhere."
Brunswick County is pretty big and is the fastest growing county in the state (and has been for years)
Most people moving in, at least in my area, are from MD, CT, NY, PA, etc. are moving down south BECAUSE of the high taxes etc. and are repubs which is why NC turned repub and outed the dems who had an 100 year stronghold on the state.
NC turned Republican because the GOP had an excellent 2010 and then were able to control redistricting. The state has trended Democratic compared to the national average in the last few election cycles and will continue, with the triangle and Charlotte leading the charge.
"North Carolina? The population there is booming in Charlotte and the Research Triangle, and its largely driven by young liberal transplants from elsewhere."
Brunswick County is pretty big and is the fastest growing county in the state (and has been for years)
Most people moving in, at least in my area, are from MD, CT, NY, PA, etc. are moving down south BECAUSE of the high taxes etc. and are repubs which is why NC turned repub and outed the dems who had an 100 year stronghold on the state.
It might be the case but they have 21 times the population than Brunswick does. From my reading it looks like most of the transplants to your county are fairly moderate Republicans as well.
NC turned Republican because the GOP had an excellent 2010 and then were able to control redistricting. The state has trended Democratic compared to the national average in the last few election cycles and will continue, with the triangle and Charlotte leading the charge.
It was my understanding that the western part of the state was far more engaged in 2010 and drove a lot of that change as well. One of the reasons the Governor has had to scale back his pro business message for a social tea party one.
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It might be the case but they have 21 times the population than Brunswick does. From my reading it looks like most of the transplants to your county are fairly moderate Republicans as well.
And one can't see moderate Republicans voting for Trump.
"North Carolina? The population there is booming in Charlotte and the Research Triangle, and its largely driven by young liberal transplants from elsewhere."
Brunswick County is pretty big and is the fastest growing county in the state (and has been for years)
Actually, Brunswick County is not 'pretty big'. It has a population of 110k. North Carolina has 100 counties and over 10 million people. That means Brunswick County is only slightly larger than the average county in the state.
Take Mecklenburg County (Charlotte) - it added 340k people since 2000. Wake County (Raleigh) has added 395k in that time. And Brunswick? It's added a mere 50k since 2000. And Mecklenburg and Wake represent only a fraction of the populations of Charlotte metro and the Research Triangle. So I have no idea why you're going on about Brunswick County, when it contains barely 1% of the state's population while Charlotte metro and the Research Triangle combined comprise well over 50% of the state's people. It's just basic math.
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Most people moving in, at least in my area, are from MD, CT, NY, PA, etc. are moving down south BECAUSE of the high taxes etc. and are repubs which is why NC turned repub and outed the dems who had an 100 year stronghold on the state.
Aside from that, it's an elementary mistake to think that 'your area' is somehow representative of the entire state.
There's a reason that after decades of reliably winning North Carolina by comfortable margins, Republican Presidential candidates are now only narrowly carrying it (2012) or losing it outright (2008). Also, the Democrats of old who won elections in North Carolina were conservative blue dogs. Now they're actual progressives. That's a sea change. And it's not because Republicans are flocking to North Carolina from northern states in search of lower taxation.
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NC turned Republican because the GOP had an excellent 2010 and then were able to control redistricting. The state has trended Democratic compared to the national average in the last few election cycles and will continue, with the triangle and Charlotte leading the charge.
Exactly!
Case in point: In 2012, Democratic House candidates in North Carolina got 50.6% of the total votes cast in those races. Republicans got 48.8%. Yet because of Republican gerrymandering, Republicans won 9 of the 13 elections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._2012#Overview
Hillary must nominate judges that will make it clear that for-profit prisons and the current system of gerrymandering is unconstitutional. Anything else would be a massive hit for basic human rights in America.
"North Carolina? The population there is booming in Charlotte and the Research Triangle, and its largely driven by young liberal transplants from elsewhere."
Brunswick County is pretty big and is the fastest growing county in the state (and has been for years)
Most people moving in, at least in my area, are from MD, CT, NY, PA, etc. are moving down south BECAUSE of the high taxes etc. and are repubs which is why NC turned repub and outed the dems who had an 100 year stronghold on the state.
I am willing to bet that Northern transplants vote Democrat much more so than native Southerners in NC (this stat applies only to whites). Transplants are a big part of NC turning blue.
Case in point: In 2012, Democratic House candidates in North Carolina got 50.6% of the total votes cast in those races. Republicans got 48.8%. Yet because of Republican gerrymandering, Republicans won 9 of the 13 elections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United..._2012#Overview
and are destroying our republic in the process.
Gerrymandering is ELECTION RIGGING raised to an art form - politicians choosing the electors rather than the electors choosing the politicians.
We do not have representative government, at all.
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