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Like you, I've been distressed about the election result. But please, for goodness sake STHU. Stop whining about it. Stop protesting. Just stop it. Go on with your lives. Don't talk about it. Don't say anything. Just go on with your lives quietly.
My boyfriend and I are taking steps to protect ourselves ASAP. I suggest you guys do the same.
I've never said or believed that Trump will destroy the country.
That said, Trump's base supporters definitely are not gay-friendly.
About a couple weeks before the election, I was out at the construction site of one of my projects. I'm an engineer. I stood around and started talking with some of the guys. There was a concrete truck driver that was standing around waiting for his turn to pour the concrete into the superstructure of the bridge we were building. He said loud and proud "I'm against interracial relationships". Puzzled, I asked him why? He said too many complications and god never intended for the races to mix. Of course, he didn't know I was the boss.
My point is not too long ago such language was not tolerated. Now, all these bigots feel empowered by Trump.
It's not a coincidence that every racist group in the country came out to support Trump.
No, I don't believe Trump will destroy the country. But I do believe that the elements in our society and government who up to this point have been closeted bigots are now empowered by the Trump presidency to make their move.
But like I said, I accept the election result. I urge all liberals to STHU and accept it. Just lay low and do whatever they need to to protect themselves. Protesting does absolutely nothing to help the situation.
Obama supporters have not been cop friendly either and as retired law enforcement it makes me sick. Cops are not out shooting people willy nilly but to watch the news and listen to the president, who invites BLM to the WH, you would think so.
About a couple weeks before the election, I was out at the construction site of one of my projects. I'm an engineer. I stood around and started talking with some of the guys. There was a concrete truck driver that was standing around waiting for his turn to pour the concrete into the superstructure of the bridge we were building. He said loud and proud "I'm against interracial relationships". Puzzled, I asked him why? He said too many complications and god never intended for the races to mix. Of course, he didn't know I was the boss.
My point is not too long ago such language was not tolerated. Now, all these bigots feel empowered by Trump.
What language? He sounded pretty polite in expressing his opinion, even if it is not pc. He was not wrong that there can be complications with interracial relationships, usually with family. It has been accepted that minorities can speak about having their own spaces and dating and marrying within their own race.
so did you retaliate and fire him? Or be an adult and brush off his opinion because he was still doing the work he was paid to do?
I don't agree with the lay low part, they should accept it though. But why do anything to "hide"? if the other groups do not want to hide their feelings, no reason you should.
Wear a rainbow spandex to the construction site next time with boss written in large letters
I'm not against the protesting, I'm just confused by it. I still don't understand why they are protesting, they have no "goal". They aren't even protesting to impeach Trump or anything. They are just rioting. Nothing like the protests from civil rights days where they had a goal and the protests were to gain attention. These current protests are just what? A bunch of unhappy kids running wild. Hell, they could even protest to have a recount to waste time/money, but they don't even do that. They don't even want Trump to resign before Jan 20, they have already accepted that he will be president.
Obama supporters have not been cop friendly either and as retired law enforcement it makes me sick. Cops are not out shooting people willy nilly but to watch the news and listen to the president, who invites BLM to the WH, you would think so.
I've never said or believed that Trump will destroy the country.
That said, Trump's base supporters definitely are not gay-friendly.
About a couple weeks before the election, I was out at the construction site of one of my projects. I'm an engineer. I stood around and started talking with some of the guys. There was a concrete truck driver that was standing around waiting for his turn to pour the concrete into the superstructure of the bridge we were building. He said loud and proud "I'm against interracial relationships". Puzzled, I asked him why? He said too many complications and god never intended for the races to mix. Of course, he didn't know I was the boss.
My point is not too long ago such language was not tolerated. Now, all these bigots feel empowered by Trump.
It's not a coincidence that every racist group in the country came out to support Trump.
No, I don't believe Trump will destroy the country. But I do believe that the elements in our society and government who up to this point have been closeted bigots are now empowered by the Trump presidency to make their move.
But like I said, I accept the election result. I urge all liberals to STHU and accept it. Just lay low and do whatever they need to to protect themselves. Protesting does absolutely nothing to help the situation.
I agree with you that the violent protests must stop, but that's because I abhor violence. I understand your feelings, and I respect you for doing what you need to do to feel safe. But everyone handles things in their own way, and I am not going to be silenced just because Trump won. If I disagree with what he, or any other political figure is doing, I am going to say so.
If I disagree with what he, or any other political figure is doing, I am going to say so.
which is why I don't get the protests... he hasn't actually "done" anything as president. What is there to protest over?
At this point, the only thing that the protesters would be protesting at would be how the electoral college worked like it was designed to. And that isn't an issue worth protesting to me. My candidate lost, but I'm glad that the electoral college worked and Trump winning as a result is something that I can accept without hard feelings. If I want to see "my issues" passed, I will campaign for it to get onto a ballot. That has nothing to do with who the president is.
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Like you, I've been distressed about the election result. But please, for goodness sake STHU. Stop whining about it. Stop protesting. Just stop it. Go on with your lives. Don't talk about it. Don't say anything. Just go on with your lives quietly.
My boyfriend and I are taking steps to protect ourselves ASAP. I suggest you guys do the same.
Whining is usually shorthand for "Your grievances are trivial and don't deserve the slightest attention from mature, serious people like me". I will be the first to admit Trump actually won the election and on that basis deserves to be in the Oval Office come January 20. Still, this is not Mitt Romney, John McCain, or even George W. Bush we're talking about. None of those three pandered to basebrain prejudices against minorities and women, displayed a blatant incivility, and portrayed a style of machismo suggesting that if you're weak, sensitive, and "unmanly" then you're a "Loser" (True, he did not explicitly say that last one, true enough, but it is the implication behind the totality of his remarks).
So while he did win fair and square, he does need to note he will be under a microscope, especially given his remarks of a tone and content so blatantly disrespectful that I thought no half-way civilized person in half-way polite company could ever utter them openly, let alone a presidential candidate. These protests are putting him and his allies on notice: do not push policies or orders that attack basic human dignity, even if you did win the office fair and square!
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You realize Trump won the same way Obama did, through being a populist and holding large rallies
If Obama didn't destroy the country like the GOP feared, then Trump also won't destroy the country like liberals fear now
What do prepare for? You think Trump is going to go after you? The states that passed equal marriage laws will still have them. Trump can not "unmake" a law as president. He would have to enforce it.
For all the pro-choice/pro-gay marriage activists, how come they were more interested in voting on legalizing marijuana? At least the GOP activists got their same sex marriage/pro-life arguments onto a ballot.
When was the last ballot on legalizing any of the "liberal" issues? Because Obama helped it temporarily, you thought you were okay to stop working on it? Executive orders are not law, they are temporary measures.
Same as above. As for Trump vs Obama populism, there's populism and then there's blatantly hateful (or at least profoundly disrespectful) populism. If there's one thing I learned from reading history, it's to never underestimate the power of demagogues - from the 20th century's most famous ones to the mid 20th century South's racial segregationists to late 80s-early 90s Louisiana, when David Duke ran for office and stirred up a lot of preexisting prejudices to the forefront - and even won a state representative seat in suburban New Orleans (I remember that one, being in my early 20s and a Louisiana citizen and resident at the time - so add personal experience to my list of reasons to challenge demagogues). So yes, respect Trump's entry into the White House, but keep him on notice - you cross this line, we'll do everything we legally can to undermine your power.
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