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I'll tell you why. The last time was in 2000 when Bush was selected by the Supreme Court while Republicans fought a vote count. They fought a vote count. Who does that? And the Supreme Court gave a ruling and in that ruling they said "this ruling should not be used as future precedent". The Supreme Court knew they were selecting a president and George Bush lost the popular vote.
We were told, this never happens, this is unique, the president typically wins the popular vote and the Electoral College, it's only happened three other times in history and they were 1824, 1876 and 1888 respectively. We are not likely to see this happen again anytime soon.
Now it's happened again and again it's a Republican taking the presidency and it's only 16 years later. If this becomes a common occurrence, where a minority of voters control a majority of voters, I see it changing at some point. Larger states will just not sit by letting rural voters control them and take their tax dollars.
do a Google search. The electoral college was the reason they were saying Trump couldn't win, saying he had no chance at flipping enough states to get the votes needed to win
that does not mean they like the system.. that means they were discussing it.
Fun fact-the electoral college could still vote someone else in. That wouldnt suddenly make the system a good thing.
do a Google search. The electoral college was the reason they were saying Trump couldn't win, saying he had no chance at flipping enough states to get the votes needed to win
Yes.
Such principles are always in fluctuation for the Alt-Left as they look to score political points.
I'll tell you why. The last time was in 2000 when Bush was selected by the Supreme Court while Republicans fought a vote count. They fought a vote count. Who does that? And the Supreme Court gave a ruling and in that ruling they said "this ruling should not be used as future precedent". The Supreme Court knew they were selecting a president and George Bush lost the popular vote.
We were told, this never happens, this is unique, the president typically wins the popular vote and the Electoral College, it's only happened three other times in history and they were 1824, 1876 and 1888 respectively. We are not likely to see this happen again anytime soon.
Now it's happened again and again it's a Republican taking the presidency and it's only 16 years later. If this becomes a common occurrence, where a minority of voters control a majority of voters, I see it changing at some point. Larger states will just not sit by letting rural voters control them and take their tax dollars.
It may happen again in 4 years, so get used to it. The EC is working the way it's designed to. All the whining isn't going to change that.
In fact, it was the dems who thought Hillary had the EC in the bag but might lose the popular vote. I remember one thread by a liberal here stating "Thank God for the Electoral College" when this person thought Trump would win the popular vote. Large states like CA have no choice in the matter. They aren't going to change the Constitution and force the smaller states to submit to their will. The Founding Fathers were brilliant.
I'll tell you why. The last time was in 2000 when Bush was selected by the Supreme Court while Republicans fought a vote count. They fought a vote count. Who does that? And the Supreme Court gave a ruling and in that ruling they said "this ruling should not be used as future precedent". The Supreme Court knew they were selecting a president and George Bush lost the popular vote.
We were told, this never happens, this is unique, the president typically wins the popular vote and the Electoral College, it's only happened three other times in history and they were 1824, 1876 and 1888 respectively. We are not likely to see this happen again anytime soon.
Now it's happened again and again it's a Republican taking the presidency and it's only 16 years later. If this becomes a common occurrence, where a minority of voters control a majority of voters, I see it changing at some point. Larger states will just not sit by letting rural voters control them and take their tax dollars.
And what are they going to do other than secede ?
No one would hear a peep from the buttercups had Hillary won the EC and Trump the popular.
Last time I checked, we're the United States of America, not the United Urban Areas of America.
You could try making all of the urban areas like Vatican City and building big walls around them so no rural folks can get in. But then the rats would have no way to get out ...
before the election they said Hillary had an easy path to 270 electoral votes and Trump had no chance
People -- especially Democrats -- have been complaining bout the Electoral College for ages. This is not anything new. The EC has been advantageous for the GOP and disadvantageous for the Dems for a very long time now.
But I think I have some idea where you're going with this. Nobody on the Left had any inkling that Hillary Clinton could possibly lose. The idea seemed so preposterous that they didn't lay any groundwork for undermining Trump's win in advance. Trump also seemed to be just as convinced he couldn't win and he did lay the groundwork for claiming that "the system is rigged!" He even played "You Can't Always Get What You Want" during his victory speech -- which has always been more of a song for accepting defeat, rather than celebrating victory.
So no, the Dems weren't whining about the system being rigged in advance. They were so absolutely sure they'd win, the idea didn't even occur to them.
It may happen again in 4 years, so get used to it. The EC is working the way it's designed to. All the whining isn't going to change that.
In fact, it was the dems who thought Hillary had the EC in the bag but might lose the popular vote. I remember one thread by a liberal here stating "Thank God for the Electoral College" when this person thought Trump would win the popular vote. Large states like CA have no choice in the matter. They aren't going to change the Constitution and force the smaller states to submit to their will. The Founding Fathers were brilliant.
This was only the fifth time it happened in our entire history. If it becomes a common result, it will get changed. No need to argue about it but it will get changed. Small rural states will not get to take all the tax dollars from large states while telling them how to live their lives. At some point the push back will be so intense a change is made or states are completely empowered and we look at Balkanizing the country.
This was only the fifth time it happened in our entire history. If it becomes a common result, it will get changed. No need to argue about it but it will get changed. Small rural states will not get to take all the tax dollars from large states while telling them how to live their lives. At some point the push back will be so intense a change is made or states are completely empowered and we look at Balkanizing the country.
The thing you're not getting is that it doesn't matter if it's the 5th time or the 100th time. The national election system in this country is set up so States pick who the President will be, not the overall population by direct vote. It's designed to be that way since we are a nation of States or sovereign entities which united to become one country held together by a Constitution which gives limited but important powers to these states. We are not like Germany, Russia, Mexico or any other country in that regard.
If it eventually changes then fine, it will change. The prospects of it changing in any legal Constitutional fashion though is almost zero since smaller states far outnumber larger ones and they are not willingly going to bow down to 3-4 large states and be bullied by them.
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