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A lot of people who voted for Trump won't be around to vote for him a second time. With each passing year, his core base of voters shrinks, especially in the Rust Belt.
You have nothing in which to base that upon. It is merely your opinion, and your hope. Nice try though.
OMG, why are you even paying attention to such a truly stupid poll at this stage? That is what makes it stupid; right now, not a poll in the world means anything regarding an election that is over 2 years away. To top it off you are reading a poll posted by a super biased blog, and we all know many blogs, regardless what side they take are pretty unreliable. No one is complaining about polls as much as many of us are bright enough to not take them seriously. Let's go back to any poll taken in 2014 or even 2015, or 16. That should be enough to make people realize it is too early to talk 2020.Add to all this we have no idea if either will run in 2020? I really doubt Biden has the burning desire or the energy to handle a year long campaign and as for Trump: he sounds like he will run, but what would you expect? He isn't about to become a lame duck president until he has to. If he told us now, he was considering to hang it up in 2020 how do you think his supporters would feel and how much does a lame duck president ever get accomplished?
Biden is Trump's worst nightmare considering how razor thin his margins were in the Rust Belt. Biden is a Scranton-born and raised Irish Catholic who has instant name recognition. As Obama's Wing Man, he also excites voters in and around Philadelphia who were more lukewarm for Clinton (being an Eagles fan helps a lot as well). Fox News and Alex Jones will do all they can to demonize him, but he won't be nearly as easy a mark as Clinton was.
OK,so why. if you think he is so great did he run twice and not even get past 1st base? He appears to be a nice guy and people support him for that, but when it comes down to actually voting I think you would see something totally different. Have you watched him at rallies, compared to Trump? Trump might be hard to believe too often, but he sure stirs up the crowds. Biden, comes across flat and I don't need to go into some of the mistakes he made 2 years ago. Add 2 more years to that? His time has come and gone, just like somr of our popular Republicans that didn't get in when they should have.
Her chances of running again are around 1% even if she really wants to run again. In 2016, she had both the President and DNC superdelegates all in her corner. In 2020, she won't have any of that, especially if Biden decides to run. It would be hard to imagine a scenario where Obama doesn't stump for his own Vice President.
Why wouldn't she again have a lock on the DNC and super delegates? Do you have something concrete to back that up?
A lot of people who voted for Trump won't be around to vote for him a second time. With each passing year, his core base of voters shrinks, especially in the Rust Belt.
I read pretty much the exact same posts 10 years ago. (of course using a generic republican candidate and not Trump) Republicans can't possibly win a national election, the old white people are dying off.
So, this is a good reminder of the concerns I have about the dems $&#@ing up the midterms and not getting the house back.
But don't worry, nothing bad could possibly go wrong....the dems got it in the bag. Smoooooth sailing ahead.
I write that with as much frustration as any of the democrats here, I feel there needs to be balance and not full party control of house, senate, presidency.
Why wouldn't she again have a lock on the DNC and super delegates? Do you have something concrete to back that up?
Because it wouldn't make any sense for Obama to line up the party machine against his own VP. Why would he do that? With Biden standing down in 2016, for reasons only he really knows, Obama had the green light to back his former SoS. But with Biden in the 2020 race, and Biden being more tied to his legacy than Hillary ever could be, why would he back Hillary behind the scenes or even remain neutral? I don't think it would make any sense.
There's also the fact that a losing Presidential candidate has never received the nomination the next go around.
I also think there's the very real possibility Biden could curb stomp Hillary in a primary. Hillary's candidacy was in large measure powered by African American voters in Southern primaries. That was a real weakness for the Sanders campaign that Biden doesn't have.
I read pretty much the exact same posts 10 years ago. (of course using a generic republican candidate and not Trump) Republicans can't possibly win a national election, the old white people are dying off.
So, this is a good reminder of the concerns I have about the dems $&#@ing up the midterms and not getting the house back.
Keep in mind that my post was in response to someone saying Trump would eat everyone's lunch. I feel you're always quick to condemn Democrats for being too cocky and self-assured, but you seldom say much about the guy who started talking about his second term only months into the office, claims he is the smartest, the bravest, so brave, in fact, he would have run into that Florida HS and subdued the shooter himself.
The point was that Trump's margin of victory was so slim that the confidence many of his supporters have that he'll sweep the Rust Belt again can in no way be justified. That's like winning a football game with a 65-yard FG with 1 second on the clock and then saying that you'll win the rematch by 4 TDs.
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I write that with as much frustration as any of the democrats here, I feel there needs to be balance and not full party control of house, senate, presidency.
On occasion, I encounter people who believe that power constantly shifting between the parties is best for the country. But why is that the case? How is it progress for one party to install a system of universal healthcare only for the other party to come into power and dismantle it? The "power should be shifting" argument would make sense if there wasn't such a policy gap between the two parties and they were both fit to govern, but it's clear from the last few months that governance and the hard intellectual work of policy-making is not a responsibility they take seriously.
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