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Old 06-09-2022, 04:39 AM
 
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It takes a 2/3 majority to over-ride a veto. Even the most rosy scenario for republicans is not that good.

Fact is, these days neither party can do anything unless they have a 60-vote majority in the Senate. Any less than that, and all your bills are filibustered. And since it's unlikely either party will see that kind of a majority anytime soon, its gridlock from now until the foreseeable future.
That is true, except for one little thing. Dems want to spend like drunken sailors-they need 2/3rd. GOP does not, and preventing anything requires simply the majorities in both House & Senate GOP will enjoy.

Add in, there are always pesky continuing government funding bills each year. GOP can append stuff to them in 2023, putting Dems in position of trying to avoid them getting to Senate floor, with Democrats then causing a shutdown.
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Old 06-09-2022, 04:44 AM
 
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At the rate the Democrats are going, there's absolutely a chance. Even CNN did some decent reporting on pulling the data showing how if mid-terms were held right now, Republicans would have a historic win.






Joe Biden has surpassed Trump for lowest approval rating. His own party, the media, and many Democrats are tired of supporting and covering for him. Most leftwing outlets don't even have him listed as a candidate for 2024. Biden's career is coming to an end.






False. Republicans are rebuilding and many of them have strong candidates. Just look at Oz and McCormick and how close that race was. It had everyone talking. Now Oz has the win and is moving on. JD Vance in Ohio crushed it. Many Republicans are doing just fine.






Close race? Walker is on a hot streak, and at the rate Raphael Warnock is going, especially with his ex wife coming out about suing him for child custody because he's a ****ty Father, as well as his domestic abuse. Unlike Walker who actually apologized for his mistakes and still actively works in the community so others never make the same mistake he did, Warnock denies it. Warnock also claims he's a moderate Dem, and his party doesn't want moderates.





True, but many Republicans are doing just fine. Dr Oz is proof of that.





Yeah, it shows the country how fascist your party has become. The people are waking up and are getting sick and tired of this totalitarian mindset the Dems have.





And yet for the last months, it's been shown time and time again that Republicans have a much better shot at crushing the Dems in the mid-terms.





Not as much as the worst inflation in 41 years, $5/gal gas (also a diesel shortage), supply shortages, baby formula shortages, sending billions to Ukraine, being in a proxy war with Russia, how the Dems handled COVID in 2021, and illegals pouring in.





What about it? It's gotten a lot of good press coverage, and all of the clowns trying to deny geo-tracking doesn't work got laughed at and have been dead quiet on it.





Nope, nice try.





Really? A message on making this country great again by tackling inflation, securing our borders, getting back to being energy independent, making sure woke ideology like CRT and other racist trash aren't in our school systems, while your side promotes mutilating children's genitals before being teenagers so they can be one of the 500 new made up genders. Sounds like the poor message is on the left.





Trump is the GOP. His record for candidate endorsements prove it. The man is like 92 -5. He's a lot more likeable than Biden, who's approval rating is lower than Trump's BTW.




Hey, I commend you for trying. Can't wait to come back to this thread in November to laugh and say I told you so.
" He's a lot more likeable than Biden, who's approval rating is lower than Trump's BTW.""


Even some dems do NOT want to be on stage with biden.
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Old 06-09-2022, 05:24 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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...He's a lot more likeable than Biden, who's approval rating is lower than Trump's BTW...
I mean, if you cherry pick dates, sure. If you're comparing lowest to lowest, no.



https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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I mean, if you cherry pick dates, sure. If you're comparing lowest to lowest, no.



https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/



It's a literal fact that Biden has lower numbers than Trump and more people favor Trump at the moment. Joe Biden literally went on a rant about it last week when he found out.


https://thefederalist.com/2022/06/09...media-fawning/


https://news.yahoo.com/biden-really-...135419590.html


https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/07/polit...022/index.html


https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-a...y-poll-1668931


https://news.yahoo.com/why-biden-now...100037176.html


https://www.mediaite.com/uncategoriz...on-television/


https://nypost.com/2022/06/06/exaspe...-poll-numbers/


https://www.newsweek.com/majority-vo...n-poll-1631999


https://thepoliticalinsider.com/new-...ar-than-biden/





There you go. That's the same story from both sides of the coin, unlike you who picked ONE biased site from a project team ran by unhinged Liberals.


But you believe what you want.
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:49 AM
 
Location: Long Island (chief in S Farmingdale)
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It's a literal fact that Biden has lower number than Trump and more people favor Trump at the moment. Joe Biden literally went on a rant about it last week when he found out.


https://thefederalist.com/2022/06/09...media-fawning/


https://news.yahoo.com/biden-really-...135419590.html


https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/07/polit...022/index.html


https://www.newsweek.com/joe-biden-a...y-poll-1668931


https://news.yahoo.com/why-biden-now...100037176.html


https://www.mediaite.com/uncategoriz...on-television/


https://nypost.com/2022/06/06/exaspe...-poll-numbers/




There you go. That's the same story from both sides of the coin, unlike you who picked a biased site from a project team ran by unhinged Liberals.


But you believe what you want.

That wasn't the argument. Biden's #'s are poor, no one is arguing that. Biden's #'s are also lower currently than what Trump's were at the same point in the Presidency (albeit slightly). However, it is also true that the low point in Biden's Presidency, has so far been better than the low point in Trump's Presidency approval wise.
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Old 06-09-2022, 08:57 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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That wasn't the argument. Biden's #'s are poor, no one is arguing that. Biden's #'s are also lower currently than what Trump's were at the same point in the Presidency (albeit slightly). However, it is also true that the low point in Biden's Presidency, has so far been better than the low point in Trump's Presidency approval wise.



Did I say it was? I was responding to Hooligan who claimed I was cherry picking approval ratings (which is incredibly ironic seeing as that's what he actually did), and I replied back with links to back up my claims. And thank you for the laugh! No way in hell has Biden's lowest point been better than anything Trump-related. 2019 alone crushes anything Biden has tried to do for this country.



- When I got a 3% raise under the Trump administration, I could see the difference. This year? Couldn't even notice it


- I'm paying $3 more for gas, as we all are



- The same amount of groceries is almost more than double


- Interest rates weren't insane like how they are now


- We weren't being warned of blackouts for the Summer


- No new wars


- No migrant surges at the border



And that's not even scratching the surface. I'm sorry, but how you feel about Trump is irrelevant. Because it's facts over feelings, and this country was in a much better place with Trump.
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Old 06-09-2022, 09:00 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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That wasn't the argument. Biden's #'s are poor, no one is arguing that. Biden's #'s are also lower currently than what Trump's were at the same point in the Presidency (albeit slightly). However, it is also true that the low point in Biden's Presidency, has so far been better than the low point in Trump's Presidency approval wise.


Exactly.
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Old 06-09-2022, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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Exactly.

This is why I constantly ask how dense you are. You took one string out of my response, and chose to make it about approval ratings. You claimed depending on "which side," that the numbers will be different. I replied back with multiple links from both sides showing you that was false. Again, Biden himself went on a rant about it last week. It's one of the reasons he went on Kimmel. He's desperate to get those numbers up.


Now you pathetically come back trying to back up Smash255 who also tried to spin this? Please, just grow up and admit you were wrong. If I want to listen to Spin Doctors, then I'll play the band's music.
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