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Old 08-05-2022, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Madison, Alabama
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What are her chances of winning the general election?

 
Old 08-05-2022, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Robson had a good chance against Hobbs. Lake will be crushed.
 
Old 08-05-2022, 05:33 PM
 
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What are her chances of winning the general election?
Personally, I think very poor. After all, Arizona has been steadily going 'blue' over the past decade or so. Plus, she is up against Katie Hobbs, who is slightly favored to win by 538.

However, 538 has not taken into account this: the Republican primary just completed was rather ugly. Yes, Ms. Lake won against Ms. Robson, but will the disappointed Robson supporters come out and vote for Mr. Lake?

Around the country the MAGA movement is killing itself in several ways. When you have two MAGA people running against each other, each claiming the other is not loyal to Mr. Trump, then the losers (who will claim the election was stolen) will not be motivated to vote for the MAGA winner. Heck, Ms. Lake claimed election fraud even before she was declared the winner.

Plus, most rational people know that the 2020 election was not 'stolen'. For Arizona, those people had to watch idiocy of the nth degree concerning the "Cyper Ninja' fraud, which company simply enriched itself and proved, well, nothing. This is fun reading by an Arizona newspaper:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...s/10089852002/

Of course, this is fun too:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...election-false

MAGA supporters think that the majority of Americans are in their corner. They are not. Kansas just proved it
 
Old 08-05-2022, 05:34 PM
 
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Robson had a good chance against Hobbs. Lake will be crushed.
Will she deny the results?
 
Old 08-05-2022, 06:12 PM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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You proved my point...
No, you proved mine. You responded to my post, not the other way around.
 
Old 08-05-2022, 06:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by legalsea View Post
Personally, I think very poor. After all, Arizona has been steadily going 'blue' over the past decade or so. Plus, she is up against Katie Hobbs, who is slightly favored to win by 538.

However, 538 has not taken into account this: the Republican primary just completed was rather ugly. Yes, Ms. Lake won against Ms. Robson, but will the disappointed Robson supporters come out and vote for Mr. Lake?

Around the country the MAGA movement is killing itself in several ways. When you have two MAGA people running against each other, each claiming the other is not loyal to Mr. Trump, then the losers (who will claim the election was stolen) will not be motivated to vote for the MAGA winner. Heck, Ms. Lake claimed election fraud even before she was declared the winner.

Plus, most rational people know that the 2020 election was not 'stolen'. For Arizona, those people had to watch idiocy of the nth degree concerning the "Cyper Ninja' fraud, which company simply enriched itself and proved, well, nothing. This is fun reading by an Arizona newspaper:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news...s/10089852002/

Of course, this is fun too:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...election-false

MAGA supporters think that the majority of Americans are in their corner. They are not. Kansas just proved it



Why do you Democrats make up so much garbage?





1) Republican enthusiasm is a lot stronger than the Democrats under Biden. 752,849 came to vote in the GOP primary compared to 548,722 Democrats. Republicans hold a 4% advantage in voter registration to start and We shall see how the independents will go base on the ECONOMY.



2) Hobbs has been found guilty of discrimination of a black woman in the Arizona government that the taxpayers of the state had to pay millions of dollars for her management skills and law violation. That is huge especially Hobbs that declares herself champion of the minorities and women. It makes her a fraud. You think you would still have a job if you cost the company millions of dollars in a lawsuit for discrimination? how do you explain that in government or private sector?


3) Biden approval is the lowest in Arizona by any President. That doesn't help Hobbs.



4) 538 has been wrong before especially in 2016 and beyond. Both the Cook Political Report and poll tracker FiveThirtyEight currently rate the race a toss-up, but FiveThirtyEight also notes that Hobbs is "slightly favored to win.".


5) Democrats hope that Republicans stay home because Lake is not the perfect "Republican" and let Hobbs who will push for Biden's reckless spending and higher taxes under a recession win. Wishful thinking.


6) Democrats still have TDS that think that Trump will be the #1 issue in Arizona over economy, economy, economy and border. They are really in a bubble to think Biden's policies are famous in Arizona.


7) You notice that all the posts here attacking Lake is about Trump and 2020 elections. Nothing about the economy, taxes, border or managing a budget which disqualifies Hobbs for costing the taxpayers millions of dollars for her own discrimination, they only attack her for Trump. This is how out of touch Democrats are.



7) All Polls have Trump beating Biden and Kamala. That means Trump's policies are more welcome than Biden/Harris. To ignore that really makes you a fanatic.

Last edited by SanJuanStar; 08-05-2022 at 06:30 PM..
 
Old 08-05-2022, 06:27 PM
 
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Robson had a good chance against Hobbs. Lake will be crushed.
More comedy. Robson couldn't win 1 county out of 15 in a primary even getting help from the GOP establishment and the sitting governor.

Pence, William Bennett, Newt, Ducey,Christie, Huckabee, Hutchinson (3 governors) and still she couldn't win 1 county against the "extremist Trump candidate" but she has a great chance against Hobbs in the general? Thanks for the laugh. TDS does this to people.
 
Old 08-05-2022, 06:39 PM
 
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When did Lake start supporting Obama and when did she start supporting Trump. I am not familiar with her but this seems very odd to me.
 
Old 08-05-2022, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Boston
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does Hobbs have any affiliation with the KKK?
 
Old 08-05-2022, 06:56 PM
 
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Originally Posted by SanJuanStar View Post
Why do you Democrats make up so much garbage?





1) Republican enthusiasm is a lot stronger than the Democrats under Biden. 752,849 came to vote in the GOP primary compared to 548,722 Democrats. Republicans hold a 4% advantage in voter registration to start and We shall see how the independents will go base on the ECONOMY.



2) Hobbs has been found guilty of discrimination of a black woman in the Arizona government that the taxpayers of the state had to pay millions of dollars for her management skills and law violation. That is huge especially Hobbs that declares herself champion of the minorities and women. It makes her a fraud. You think you would still have a job if you cost the company millions of dollars in a lawsuit for discrimination? how do you explain that in government or private sector?


3) Biden approval is the lowest in Arizona by any President. That doesn't help Hobbs.



4) 538 has been wrong before especially in 2016 and beyond. Both the Cook Political Report and poll tracker FiveThirtyEight currently rate the race a toss-up, but FiveThirtyEight also notes that Hobbs is "slightly favored to win.".


5) Democrats hope that Republicans stay home because Lake is not the perfect "Republican" and let Hobbs who will push for Biden's reckless spending and higher taxes under a recession win. Wishful thinking.


6) Democrats still have TDS that think that Trump will be the #1 issue in Arizona over economy, economy, economy and border. They are really in a bubble to think Biden's policies are famous in Arizona.


7) You notice that all the posts here attacking Lake is about Trump and 2020 elections. Nothing about the economy, taxes, border or managing a budget which disqualifies Hobbs for costing the taxpayers millions of dollars for her own discrimination, they only attack her for Trump. This is how out of touch Democrats are.



7) All Polls have Trump beating Biden and Kamala. That means Trump's policies are more welcome than Biden/Harris. To ignore that really makes you a fanatic.
Your argument is rather scattered. I gave my opinion. You have not linked to anything that supports you position.

Note that I did not mention the economy (which is doing pretty well), nor President Biden (whom is not on the ticket), or the border, or your odd statement about taxpayers.
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