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It hilarious to see a lot of these people try and downplay the Moorish presence in Southern Europe. Lets forget that they were there for over 700 years. lol.
It's like they refuse to accept that they might have some non-European ancestry.
700 years of moorish in Sicily or also in Italy?
Wrong totally wrong, the arabs occupied western Sicily for 200 years and the eastern part for even less time.
It hilarious to see a lot of these people try and downplay the Moorish presence in Southern Europe. Lets forget that they were there for over 700 years. lol.
It's like they refuse to accept that they might have some non-European ancestry.
Just like nearly all Europeans have some non-European DNA. Huns, Mongols etc. we're all over northern Europe for centuries and it is hilarious to see all these northern Europeans downplay this presence. I was in Germany for a time and how Germans can deny a large Asian influence in their gene pool is beyond me.
It hilarious to see a lot of these people try and downplay the Moorish presence in Southern Europe. Lets forget that they were there for over 700 years. lol.
It's like they refuse to accept that they might have some non-European ancestry.
Dude, only south Spain was ruled for almost 800 years by the moors, but southern spaniards don't look like moroccan at all.
The moors also occupied the island of Crete for almost 200 years.
700 years of moorish in Sicily or also in Italy?
Wrong totally wrong, the arabs occupied western Sicily for 200 years and the eastern part for even less time.
Western Sicily has some Phoenician influence, but in general most of the island was eventually Hellenized, and the majority of Sicilian DNA is Greek. People from the Aegean islands, like Crete, Rhodes, and Kalymnos, are genetically almost identical to us.
Western Sicily has some Phoenician influence, but in general most of the island was eventually Hellenized, and the majority of Sicilian DNA is Greek. People from the Aegean islands, like Crete, Rhodes, and Kalymnos, are genetically almost identical to us.
The phoenician influences in western Sicily is pretty negligible because they founded just two emporiums and one of this (Mothia) was destroyed by syracusan army.
The other was Palermo but until the roman empire this city was really small and the modern palermitans derive mainly to the romans, greek-byzantines and many normans.
Genetically the last Eurogenes K15 study says that sicilians and mainlander south italians are close genetically to center greeks.
But lack Peloponnese and the islands for a better comparison.
Cypriots in this study are quite distant to us because they have a lot of levantine blood.
Genetically the last Eurogenes K15 study says that sicilians and mainlander south italians are close genetically to center greeks.
But lack Peloponnese and the islands for a better comparison.
Cypriots in this study are quite distant to us because they have a lot of levantine blood.
Peloponnesians, despite being further south geographically, actually have more Slavic and Arvanite influence than central Greeks. Islanders are similar to central Greeks though, and I have seen this when both were included. When you see "East Greeks" that means islanders, and they are usually very close to southern Italians.
We do not have african blood, also our southerners, just neolithic west asian influences.
When people mean African blood they are taking about the North African Berbers not exactly just black Africans.
Berbers also are highly Caucasian/Mediterraneans so they will resemble other Mediterranean people.
Even if I had some African blood or whichever it would not matter to me as long as I am nice and respectful to others that is what counts.
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Originally Posted by TreeBeard
Wrong...the Arabs that occupied Sicily were expelled from Sicily and there was never a significant amount of intermarriage.
As to the OP it is a typical troll question. All Europeans are mixed with some non-European elements whether it is Asian in North Europe or even SSA in England. But Southern Europeans seems to get the brunt of these stupid questions.
Who really knows what did happen but intermarriage might still had happened so who are we to tell if it did or not.
Off course all Europeans are mixed with non-Europeans, so why should we avoid these questions then.
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Originally Posted by gwillyfromphilly
It hilarious to see a lot of these people try and downplay the Moorish presence in Southern Europe. Lets forget that they were there for over 700 years. lol.
It's like they refuse to accept that they might have some non-European ancestry.
I agree.
It is really silly to deny too much of admixture in Europe, which some of it did really happen.
I personally as a British of French descent might even have some Moorish ancestors from far backwards, but who knows and who really cares if there is non-European blood.
It is not what are blood is from but where our hearts are going to become.
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Originally Posted by virulentpeach
Western Sicily has some Phoenician influence, but in general most of the island was eventually Hellenized, and the majority of Sicilian DNA is Greek. People from the Aegean islands, like Crete, Rhodes, and Kalymnos, are genetically almost identical to us.
When people mean African blood they are taking about the North African Berbers not exactly just black Africans.
Berbers also are highly Caucasian/Mediterraneans so they will resemble other Mediterranean people.
Even if I had some African blood or whichever it would not matter to me as long as I am nice and respectful to others that is what counts.
This is my situation.
Valencia was occupied during the centuries by Phoenicians and also for 500 years by the moors.
So I also considered the idea that I have north african blood.
Many spaniards outside AndalucÃa they are afraid of that, but for me it's not a problem.
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