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Old 01-22-2014, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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After months of peaceful protest things are starting to turn nasty in the Ukrainian capital.

Ukraine Unrest: Haunting Pictures Emerge From Kiev As Clashes Rage On
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Old 01-22-2014, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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Excellent pics, it is sad that I can't be now there, in Kiev
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:04 PM
 
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It would not surprise me if there was some western influence (i.e. the US) causing the violence. The US would love for this to turn violent, the US, and the EU, would gain the most from it.

The killings; well probably some stuff that has nothing to do with the protests, some people will take advantage of situations to carry out acts like this.
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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It would not surprise me if there was some western influence (i.e. the US) causing the violence. The US would love for this to turn violent, the US, and the EU, would gain the most from it.

The killings; well probably some stuff that has nothing to do with the protests, some people will take advantage of situations to carry out acts like this.
What would the US gain from violence in Ukraine?
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Kharkiv
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All killing aren't committed by police, even on this square people were killed with civilian weapons.
But on the square there are lot of people who have any guns and Molotov cocktails which they throw at police.


http://mvs.gov.ua/mvs/control/main/u...article/962249
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:33 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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It would not surprise me if there was some western influence (i.e. the US) causing the violence. The US would love for this to turn violent, the US, and the EU, would gain the most from it.

The killings; well probably some stuff that has nothing to do with the protests, some people will take advantage of situations to carry out acts like this.
Yup always gotta blame the Americans lol
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Kharkiv
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Yup always gotta blame the Americans lol
No one in Ukraine has said that America, Russia or EC organised this acts, but there are many people who came to Kiev from other countries to set fire violence after refusing ukrainian authorities to sign association with EC.
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:55 PM
 
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What would the US gain from violence in Ukraine?
Violence in Ukraine would force the Ukrainian gov to use violance in return, but the US gov (among others) would be obtuse to this fact, thus rally around imposing sanctions and anything else to cripple the current Ukrainian gov.

Right now, it is very difficult to demonize the Ukrainian gov when they have not hardly done anything.
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Old 01-23-2014, 01:59 PM
 
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Yup always gotta blame the Americans lol
The US has a long history on intervening in the internal affairs of other countries; from assassinations to backing anti-gov groups, it is not uncommon for the US to have some sort of presence in the internal affairs of a country they have interests in.
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Old 01-23-2014, 02:06 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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The US has a long history on intervening in the internal affairs of other countries; from assassinations to backing anti-gov groups, it is not uncommon for the US to have some sort of presence in the internal affairs of a country they have interests in.
Alright, so every big protest that happens around the world we will just automatically blame the US.
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