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If it was me i would resign and let the people decide what direction they want to take. Be careful what you wish for, it might not turn out as rosy as you think.
That's what Westerners were warning me back in Soviet days ( Germans in particular,) but I couldn't quite understand what they were talking about. I do by now. Live and learn as they say.
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I'm surprised after seeing with the EU is doing to Greece and other countries
having sovereign debt problems in regards to forcing them to implement austerity
measures in conditions for loans that people in the Ukraine wants to follow down
that path.
Your average Ukrainian is not all that savvy in world's financial affairs ( no different than your average Russian, really,) and both are not very worldly. So they still think that politics solve it all and are not paying attention at such thing as "economy."
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Seems like they got a better deal with Russia in terms of loan
guarantees. Maybe they feel they been under Russia's influence forever and has
been unjustly exploited because of it and is now trying to escape that
legacy
They haven't been "exploited" - those are myths created by Ukrainian nationalists, and readily supported in American offices of power. Ukrainians were the second largest group (after Russians) in all those Soviet Vziks/Supreme Soviet - don't remember all abbreviations now. That's all echoing the complaint of Georgians how badly they suffered under Russians, kinda forgetting that Stalin was their man to begin with.
I do understand that they are "trying to escape the legacy," but it's not an easy thing to do when your capital used to serve as first Russian capital back in history)))
Would love to try it! I am partial to Eastern European cooking but I have to watch the fat!
I don't think you'll like this particular dish in Russian version. I believe that originally this dish is on a spicy side and usually Russians don't like their dishes to be "hot." The only thing I can think of (for all occasions, if someone asks for it) is Russian mustard that's as hot as Chinese mustard. That's about it. So go for "gulash" made by Hungarians, in its original version.
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And speaking of goulash, perhaps we may see some good, old-fashioned 'goulash socialism' to solve this prerssing issue between the West and the East and those apparently stuck in the middle? Maybe even paving the way to some fruitul negotiation?????
Let them negotiate all they want, ( although the overture doesn't sound too promising...)
Let the protesters stay in the buildings. Seriously what harm is in that. Maybe they seen how effectively Occupy Wall Street was shut down by the U.S. authorities and thought they could replicate that. If I was the President of the Ukraine i would just plainly lay out to the people the choices they got and once they see the alternatives they'll clearly see the most favorable option is the agreement with Russia guaranteeing 15 billion in bond sales.
Let the protesters stay in the buildings. Seriously what harm is in that. Maybe they seen how effectively Occupy Wall Street was shut down by the U.S. authorities and thought they could replicate that. If I was the President of the Ukraine i would just plainly lay out to the people the choices they got and once they see the alternatives they'll clearly see the most favorable option is the agreement with Russia guaranteeing 15 billion in bond sales.
I don't think that the majority of these people know what "bond sales" are, or that they understand the situation with Ukrainian economy and where it stands in the bigger picture.
I don't know if it is correct to view the conflict in the Ukraine through the lens of the Cold War- that is, a nation struggling to break free of the influence of the "Evil Empire". I just want the fighting to end! Anyway, I think a big problem is the culture of corruption that has been in the Ukraine since the early 1990s, and I don't think any "side" can do anything about it.
I don't know if it is correct to view the conflict in the Ukraine through the lens of the Cold War- that is, a nation struggling to break free of the influence of the "Evil Empire". I just want the fighting to end! Anyway, I think a big problem is the culture of corruption that has been in the Ukraine since the early 1990s, and I don't think any "side" can do anything about it.
Even if I'll put aside the fact that "a nation struggling to break free of the influence of the "Evil Empire," was an essential part of that empire, not some "hapless victim" as some are trying to present it, and even if I don't question what "Evil Empire" exactly means in this case, here is what I have to say; Ukraine is free from Russia already for twenty years, what it's NOT free from - that's Russian gas/oil and Russian market. E.U ( as much as the US) can't pretend that they didn't know about it all along. So here is my question; after the US has organized the Orange revolution in Ukraine, how come no one ( either E.U. or the U.S) wanted to "set Ukraine free" from Russia - i.e. to purchase this country basically speaking, when it was so easy with its then pro-American government and no financial turmoils in EU - the kind that's been recently seen in Greece.
Was it because Russia was not a big concern at that point, that Ukrainians were not considered a worthy purchase? And now, ( after events in Syria probably) when Russia (or rather her growing political strength) became a concern, all of a sudden the West can't have enough of that "Ukrainian freedom."
Do Ukrainians whose well-being all of a sudden became such concern for the ruling circles of the E.U and the US really matter to them, or are they just pawns in the "big game" - the growing conflict between the West and Russia? I suspect it's the case. (*Sigh.*)
Do Ukrainians whose well-being all of a sudden became such concern for the ruling circles of the E.U and the US really matter to them, or are they just pawns in the "big game" - the growing conflict between the West and Russia? I suspect it's the case. (*Sigh.*)
You know if we assume Ukraine is an 'autonomous' country, i.e is 'sovereign' in its affairs, why is 'pressure' from another country so deleterious that people are killing each in the streets and the government because arguably those decisions perhaps run counter to what the other country wants? Frankly, it looks to me Ukraine has 'sham' freedom. Maybe you are right in the chess game. Ukraine is simply a pawn. And forr all you chess players out there, we should all know how the game progresses where you are put into certain situations where you can see your own 'death' looming up in a couple of moves. And the bad thing about is you cannot do anything about. That's the killer. I hope the opposition plays 'chess' well.
You know if we assume Ukraine is an 'autonomous' country, i.e is 'sovereign' in its affairs, why is 'pressure' from another country so deleterious that people are killing each in the streets and the government because arguably those decisions perhaps run counter to what the other country wants? Frankly, it looks to me Ukraine has 'sham' freedom.
Of course it's a "sham" freedom, because - what's "freedom" in democratic countries without money? It's a "sham."
Ukraine doesn't have money, so obviously it can't be "free."
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Maybe you are right in the chess game. Ukraine is simply a pawn. And forr all you chess players out there, we should all know how the game progresses where you are put into certain situations where you can see your own 'death' looming up in a couple of moves. And the bad thing about is you cannot do anything about. That's the killer. I hope the opposition plays 'chess' well.
All I can see now is that opposition is trying to secure "international economic aid" - with other words they are trying to buy their freedom from Russia; how it's all going to play out for everyone - I don't know.
I do understand that they are "trying to escape the legacy," but it's not an easy thing to do when your capital used to serve as first Russian capital back in history)))
Well, why doesn't Russia simply annex Ukraine if its history and Russia's is so intertwined? Is "Ukranian Nationalism" a phony idea?
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