European Countries to Become Racially Diverse!! (DNA, pros, life, country)
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How so? There are definitely "white cultures" that many Irish and most Italians have trouble effectively assimilating to. They may be Irish-American and Italian-American, but their heritage still largely defines their social sphere. The trick is that most people cannot see the borders of their social sphere.
I do not think that there is much difference between 6th generation polish american from Chicago , 6th generation irish american from Boston and 6th generation italian american from New Jersey . Peak of italian and polish immigration was on the turn of the last centuries , and irish even before that . Its probably hard to even find these people without influence of other ethnicities after so much time has passed . They all have much in common . They do not speak their ancestors languages , they watch different games than people from their old countries , their culture is different . To me they are just americans .
You can't throw all immigrants into the same boat. Poles and Germans are in the same cultural sphere so it's natural that Poles can adapt rather quickly. This is not the case with North-Africans and Middle Easterners, most of them don't integrate, they create their own parallel societies, most don't become Germans.
There are secular muslims like albanians , bosnians , tatars , kazakhs , many turks . They do not cause troubles . There are also many muslims from less developed countries, and many of them can be trouble . That is why , they should be all checked by specialists before their arrivals and those who are not able to integrate and respect european countries habits and order should not be able to get in .
I do not think that there is much difference between 6th generation polish american from Chicago , 6th generation irish american from Boston and 6th generation italian american from New Jersey . Peak of italian and polish immigration was on the turn of the last centuries , and irish even before that . Its probably hard to even find these people without influence of other ethnicities after so much time has passed . They all have much in common . They do not speak their ancestors languages , they watch different games than people from their old countries , their culture is different . To me they are just americans .
As someone who has lived among these people my entire life in a Northeast American City, there are plenty of ethnic differences. Though, of course, some individuals will also seem similar. But there is plenty of generalized difference between ethnicities. Especially between Italians and the other two. Poles and much of the Irish group are somewhat similar, but you compared two groups that started out as comparable in many respects.
As someone who has lived among these people my entire life in a Northeast American City, there are plenty of ethnic differences. Though, of course, some individuals will also seem similar. But there is plenty of generalized difference between ethnicities. Especially between Italians and the other two. Poles and much of the Irish group are somewhat similar, but you compared two groups that started out as comparable in many respects.
I understand that . But all of them (irish , italian , polish americans) speak english , do not speak their old languages , watch baseball , american football instead of soccer , don't listen to italian , irish , polish music , do not watch italian , irish , polish movies and tv shows , mostly do not keep in touch with their realitves across the ocean and do not follow politics in their old countries , all of them share the same american accents . There are far more similarities between them than between them and people from their ancestors countries .
To me irish american is someone who was born in America but his parents are immigrants. So that way he is in touch with two countries at the same time . He has large part of his family in old country where he spends his holidays and most of all he is bilingual . Or someone who was born in Ireland but immigrated with his parents when he was a kid . The same applies to italian or polish americans .
Even though such countries as United States , Australia , Argentina and basically all of new world countries are made of immigrants from various parts of the world it did not stop them from creating their own , unique cultures .
I understand that . But all of them (irish , italian , polish americans) speak english , do not speak their old languages , watch baseball , american football instead of soccer , don't listen to italian , irish , polish music , do not watch italian , irish , polish movies and tv shows , mostly do not keep in touch with their realitves across the ocean and do not follow politics in their old countries , all of them share the same american accents .
I understand that . But all of them (irish , italian , polish americans) speak english , do not speak their old languages , watch baseball , american football instead of soccer , don't listen to italian , irish , polish music , do not watch italian , irish , polish movies and tv shows , mostly do not keep in touch with their realitves across the ocean and do not follow politics in their old countries , all of them share the same american accents . There are far more similarities between them than between them and people from their ancestors countries .
I'm curious, are you American or European?
Just so I know where your perspective comes from.
For an American who has lived at street level with these people for his entire life (versus in an isolated community), what tends to become obvious is that the supposed cultural similarities that you mention are largely meaningless (television habits, accents, language, musical interests, etc). This is surface stuff that does not describe interpersonal and community behavior.
What remains is interpersonal and community behavior patterns that, in fact, do more closely resemble those of their ancestors than the people from the tribe the next block over.
America is unique in that it allows a person to recognize what doesn't change among everything that becomes assimilated. Whereas in a place like Europe, people are more willing to assume that assimilation is actually possible because they have not learned to detect essential behaviors from the superficial. Its sort of an ignorance via cultural wealth. I do envy the cultural wealth of the Europeans, but I do not envy the cultural naivete that often results. That is in no way a comment directed toward you personally.
I don’t think Europe current state is a good model of diversity
We can do better
Why is forced diversity so important? It seems many of these refugees, immigrants, and illegals form their own enclaves, and self segregate. So is "diversity" for the sake of diversity even a positive thing, or does it just make white liberals feel less guilty about whatever?
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