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Originally Posted by WestPreussen
They assimilated with other groups of americans . Just because people write that they are of german ancestry in cencus does not mean they are fully of german heritage . It means that this is their most prominent ancestry . But they usually are mixed with other ancestries .
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This misunderstanding isn't your fault, because the USA is actually a more difficult country to grasp than most people think. Given that it is so large, that also applies to most Americans.
However, it especially applies to Europeans and Americans who either have not traveled much in America and/or who don't seriously think about and research this specific aspect of America. Which is most people.
Most people, everywhere, lack the immigration history and dispersion knowledge to even begin observing the truth in regard to American society.
In short, "Germans" essentially migrated here and infilled most of the prosperous land in the nation (urban, suburban, and the rural farming land).
How they differed from the prior immigrants and most recent immigrants is that they were (and are) primarily a farming tribe. Especially West German immigrants.
Thus, they infilled rural farming areas, not just urban and suburban areas like the other immigrants who were (and are) not of a significant farming heritage.
Though, the Germans lived in those areas as well, and to this day represent a fairly significant genetic base in urban and suburban regions (decreasingly in the coastal large urban regions).
It is only in these urban an suburban regions where Germans will be seen to significantly mix with other tribes, because those are the only places where other tribes exist in significant numbers.
Though even there, there are a fair amount of unmixed Germanic type individuals in second tier cities. They are more rare in places like NYC proper where the immigration churn is constant due to the hyper-active mercantile economy.
Most of the nation, as a percentage of inhabited land, has little other appreciable immigration of other tribes. The coastal cities do, the interior cities to a lesser extent, and the crucial rural and exurban areas of most of the USA have very little if any other immigrants. As a percentage of land.
The low population density aspect of the USA, which is most of the USA, and which is occupied by original Germanic stock, serves to dissuade other immigrants who generally are urban tribal types distinct from the farming and domineering mercantile (Anglos, Scandis, Dutch) German tribes.
Most Germanic farming stock in the USA are Catholic Swabian / Bavarian stock. These represent the largest part of the inland German farming population. These people vote conservative.
Though, there is a minority of inland Saxon / North Sea / Scandi Lutheran stock. They concentrate in different States. These people tend to vote liberal more often than the Southern Germanics.
The Anglo-Saxons (not to be confused with Saxons) are still quite common and domineering as merchants (a term that I use very loosely as a catch all for most economic modes that aren't farming or manufacturing) on the coasts (as are other tribes). Make no mistake, they are insular. They are rarely found inland, but especially not in the few cities that are unquestionably dominated by other tribes. They, do, however dominate in the largest coastal centers along with one other tribe.
The Scandis set up a city above the primary farming heartland, in order to create a mercantile center from which to trade the farming goods produced by the West German farming types who largely operate the economy in the major farming production States to the south of them. They are only found inland and in a couple of coastal cities, as a large group. They are exceedingly rare on the East coast.
The Dutch pretty much inhabit one inland farming State, though I would guess that a small Dutch elite still exists in place like NYC (originally called New Amsterdam). Most cities here retain a deep echo of their origin.
I'm unsure what the primary Dutch economic mode is inland, other than farming, but they noticeably vote differently than the other West German tribe farming States that surround them (as do the Scandis).
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Go to ethnic-celebs site and check out white american people's ancestry . Like actors , singers , athletes . There are barely any of them with ancestry from one single country .
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As people migrate to urban areas, mixing is probable.
Though, you will often see a new highly popular female actor who is plucked from the farming belt if not straight from Scandanavia. Many actors are mixed, but the relatively unmixed Germanic phenotype is still prized by the media consuming public.
As a final note, "Germany" itself is, by definition, a mixed nation of several different tribes that have long been in conflict.
Each has a genetically close yet different primary genetic base, of differing subclades, in Celtic type stock (R1b and its subclades, sometimes heavily mixed with Nordic types over long periods of time to produce a very Nordicized Celtic type - see the Dutch), with a smaller second population of true Nordic stock (I1, I2a2 haplotpyes) within the primary population. East Germans will have more Slavic stock (R1a haplotype and its subclades) as its genetic base. This will also be Nordicized (Germanized) over time due to mixing with a truly genetically Nordic population minority.
The degree and history of mixing with this Nordic inner genetic core in the population generally determines how genetically "Germanic" each German tribe is. Though, from a strict DNA perspective, it is only strictly the Nordic Haplotype individuals who are Germanic. The rest are "Nordicized" Celts or Slavs, and who make up most of every ethnically Germanic population.
None of the primary power centers of these tribes lies within Germany. Germany is the chessboard of Europe where these tribes meet to do business and fight, traditionally. The single nation in Germany is an ahistorical concept, though the tribes who meet there to live as "Germany" more or less all have generally been extraordinarily high performing and fierce tribes. In this aspect of their respective cultures, they are compatible. In every other respect, they have long and often do act as differing tribes with differing interests. See Germany's history. See modern regional voting and political patterns in Germany. See modern and historical regional economies of Germany. See modern regional stereotypes in Germany.
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