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Old 02-19-2014, 11:46 AM
 
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The same Egyptian military rules again that ruled before. Same ole ;same ole in middle east; the military waits until secular conflict is ripe then steps in to take power. The same generals they wanted to put on trial for war crimes now rule again.
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Old 02-19-2014, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Kennedy Heights, Ohio. USA
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Seems the future of Ukraine is heading towards is not going to be pretty ugly. A bloody civil war similar to the current situation in Syria could happen if the opposition isn't crushed immediately or it turn out like the current situation in Egypt where emergency measures were taken to suppress groups deemed politically unacceptable to the military. My bet is the opposition gets crushed in about 7 to 10 days due to the government already has them isolated and surrounded and most of them will get rounded up and in put in prison.
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Old 02-19-2014, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Kennedy Heights, Ohio. USA
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Seems the future of Ukraine is heading towards is not going to be pretty ugly. A bloody civil war similar to the current situation in Syria could happen if the opposition isn't crushed immediately or it turn out like the current situation in Egypt where emergency measures were taken to suppress groups deemed politically unacceptable to the military. My bet is the opposition gets crushed in about 7 to 10 days due to the government already has them isolated and surrounded and most of them will get rounded up and in put in prison.
Looks like i was totally wrong. Seems the military may have split loyalties and cannot be counted upon to to back the state hence the pursuance of a truce after the escalation of aggressive force. I don't know who is advising Yanukovych but whoever is doing so is not giving him good advice. The decision to escalate the use of force has openly exposed Yanukovych's major weakness in that he doesn't have complete loyalty with the armed forces with possibly a majority of the armed forces may side with the opposition.
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:42 PM
 
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The decision to escalate the use of force has openly exposed Yanukovych's major weakness in that he doesn't have complete loyalty with the armed forces with possibly a majority of the armed forces may side with the opposition.
And thus the seriousness of the situation. I would say Mr. Y's strategy now is to hold power at all costs. The talking method seems to be stalled. Things appeatrto have gotten worse. Whatever happens Ukraine will pay a price for all this.
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Old 02-19-2014, 09:19 PM
 
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They want freedom and liberation.....


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Old 02-20-2014, 02:59 AM
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A very powerful photo of the epicenter of the protests, before and now.
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Old 02-20-2014, 10:27 AM
 
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They want freedom and liberation.....
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Beautiful picture. But the reality is slightly different.


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The video perfectly clear protesters fired on unarmed police and beat them.
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Old 02-20-2014, 10:34 AM
 
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Shooting people in Kiev /

And this video shows perfectly clear how Ukrainian police is shooting their own unarmed citizens.

Let's get real: This whole thing got really messy... And I don't think Russian politicians are improving the situation by saying Yanukovych shouldn't allow people to wipe their feet on the authorities like a doormat...

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Old 02-20-2014, 10:50 AM
 
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Shooting people in Kiev /

And this video shows perfectly clear how police shot at unarmed citizens...

What's the point of finger pointing? Now the Ukraine has a civil war going on. Nobody will know who shot first...
This event today. I brought the events of February 18.

Why peaceful demonstrators wearing body armor, helmets and shields? Such body armor, shields and helmets were the protesters, who threw Molotov cocktails in police the day before.

The most amazing thing is that these thugs support the EU and U.S.
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Old 02-20-2014, 10:54 AM
 
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And I don't think Russian politicians are improving the situation by saying Yanukovych shouldn't allow people to wipe their feet on the authorities like a doormat...
Error Yanukovych that he listened to the EU and not dispersed the crowd before. Now there is a war.
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