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Old 04-18-2020, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Russia
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Today is Easter!
Christ is risen!

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Old 04-18-2020, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Russia
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It has always been customary to demonize Russia. It has never NOT been customary, except possibly before 1917.
Although during the Cold War, the USSR also did not lag behind and demonized the West in full. But everything is clear about those times, the confrontation of systems and all that .. But even in those days, both in the USSR and the USA, politicians understood that this was a kind of game ... a game of checks and balances .. concessions and compromises .. And even in in such a situation, relations between the USSR and the USA were better than now ..
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Old 04-19-2020, 07:44 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Today is Easter!
Christ is risen!
Happy Easter to you - genuine question, why is Easter celebrated 'over there' a week later than it's celebrated elsewhere?
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Happy Easter to you - genuine question, why is Easter celebrated 'over there' a week later than it's celebrated elsewhere?
There are multiple reasons, but the biggest reason is because the orthodox church still uses the old Julian calendar back from Roman times, whereas the Catholic (and thus protestant churches) switched to the modern Georgian calendar. That being said even if the orthodox switched to the Georgian which I believe some churches have attempted with what they called the revised Julian calendar, however, even then Easter would still not align with the west as the orthodox churches and the catholic church have a different way of calculating Easter.

"The new calendar was called the Gregorian after its sponsor, Pope Gregory XIII, and Eastern churches refused to adopt it on the grounds that the new Roman tables sometimes placed Pascha on the day of the vernal full moon, instead of after it as the Nicene principles required. In 1583 the Council of Constantinople forbade use of the new calendar and Paschalion, making adherence to the Julian calendar a test of Orthodoxy in territories where Roman Catholic Uniate churches were being established."
https://orthodoxwiki.org/Paschalion

Also another thing to keep in mind is the orthodox church always celebrates Easter after the Jewish Passover, whereas the catholic church and by extension the protestant churches do not observe this and Easter will sometimes fall before Passover event though Jesus observed the Passover prior to his crucifixion. For instance this year the Jewish Passover was between April 9th and the 16th. Western Orthodox was on April 12th, and the eastern one is today on the 19th.
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Old 04-19-2020, 12:22 PM
 
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No, unfortunately so.

Yes, and they were fighting tooth and nail to preserve some of the historic sites/ buildings.
But to no avail, when it comes to "commercial interests."

In Putin's/Sobyanin Moscow $$$ and "status quo" is all that matters.

( They are not the "native Moscovites," remember?)

And it WAS lost, starting with previous mayor of Moscow Luzhkov and his wifey Baturina who owned the *construction company* in Moscow and now happily reside somewhere in the West

As, in fact, the rest of the "new Russians" generation of thugs.
Didn't the mayor die recently?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...7a1_story.html
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Old 04-19-2020, 01:24 PM
 
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Yeah, he kicked the bucket recently somewhere in Germany, since he was much older than his wifey dear.

"He met his second wife, Yelena Baturina, 27 years his junior, in 1987. They married in 1991. Baturina is a Russian businesswoman and the country's only female billionaire.[4] They had two daughters, Elena (born 1992) and Olga (born 1994), and owned a home in the affluent Kensington area of London, purchased in 2013 through an offshore company domiciled in Gibraltar.[5]"


But her, being the crook that she is, is still alive and well.

"Yelena Nikolayevna Baturina (Russian: ЕлеÌна ÐиколаÌевна БатуÌрина; born 8 March 1963) is a Russian billionaire businesswoman and philanthropist, based in London, and was married to Yury Luzhkov, mayor of Moscow (from 1992 to 2010), until his death in 2019."

( And why is it all Russian major crooks of the earlier era are "based in London"?

Inquiring minds want to know))) )
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Old 04-19-2020, 04:07 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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There are multiple reasons, but the biggest reason is because the orthodox church still uses the old Julian calendar back from Roman times, whereas the Catholic (and thus protestant churches) switched to the modern Georgian calendar. That being said even if the orthodox switched to the Georgian which I believe some churches have attempted with what they called the revised Julian calendar, however, even then Easter would still not align with the west as the orthodox churches and the catholic church have a different way of calculating Easter.

"The new calendar was called the Gregorian after its sponsor, Pope Gregory XIII, and Eastern churches refused to adopt it on the grounds that the new Roman tables sometimes placed Pascha on the day of the vernal full moon, instead of after it as the Nicene principles required. In 1583 the Council of Constantinople forbade use of the new calendar and Paschalion, making adherence to the Julian calendar a test of Orthodoxy in territories where Roman Catholic Uniate churches were being established."
https://orthodoxwiki.org/Paschalion

Also another thing to keep in mind is the orthodox church always celebrates Easter after the Jewish Passover, whereas the catholic church and by extension the protestant churches do not observe this and Easter will sometimes fall before Passover event though Jesus observed the Passover prior to his crucifixion. For instance this year the Jewish Passover was between April 9th and the 16th. Western Orthodox was on April 12th, and the eastern one is today on the 19th.
That's a brilliant informative post, thanks for teaching me something today.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:26 AM
 
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Ivan the Terrible's murder of his son is very, very doubtful. This is essentially a myth.


https://z5h64q92x9.net/proxy_u/ru-en...oego-syna.html

Zimogor, number one - this English translation is unreadable, sorry, ( for me at least.)

Number two - regarding all these "great historic revelations"; they sound rather sensational, but not substantial enough.
So I checked on the source of the origin of the whole "Ivan the Terrible killed his son" story.
It belongs to someone named Antonio Possevino - a Jesuit and Papal diplomat who was on visit to Moscow.

He learned about the death of Ivan's son ( or rather that it was his father who killed him) as a rumor, that came to him through certain channels ( you can read all the details here.)

And as much as this version is contested in the text, I would say that being put in a context of who/what Ivan the Terrible was, the whole event sounds very credible to me.

After all, these kind of rumors don't pop up for nothing.
Likewise, the short cartoon Maxim posted here - I am with him, it made me laugh.

As much as it was a parody basically, it depicted very well certain type of Russians ( in the same manner as Shnurov does it.)

Those images ( and stereotypes) don't come out of nowhere, but when you know better, when you know that there is more to Russia ( and Russians) than this stereotype, when you feel confident and secure about it as Maxim does, then that's what you do - you laugh about it.
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Old 04-20-2020, 01:15 PM
DKM
 
Location: California
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How long can Russia afford to give away oil for free? We're about to find out.
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Old 04-20-2020, 01:57 PM
 
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How long can Russia afford to give away oil for free? We're about to find out.

3 days and one night, given their Covid crises.
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