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Old 11-09-2017, 03:43 PM
DKM
 
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How about Putin blaming the USA for Russian athletes getting banned for using PED's? That's rich.
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:57 PM
 
Location: Russia
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How about Putin blaming the USA for Russian athletes getting banned for using PED's? That's rich.
If Russian athletes will compete in the Olympics under a neutral flag, this will be a slap in the face to the Russian people. But Russians will not blame Putin.This is losing policy for the West.
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Old 11-10-2017, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Russia
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If this was a joint fair investigation, Russians would support the decision. The current situation does not stand up to criticism.
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Old 11-10-2017, 06:55 AM
 
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How about Putin blaming the USA for Russian athletes getting banned for using PED's? That's rich.
i think the whole thing is a sham. Most big time athletes I have known in my time have doped its a known fact they do. To single out Russia is just silly. It is just a means for some fools to single out Russia for humiiation, that's all.

Max is correct. Russians know who is doing what and why. It's counterproductive.
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Old 11-11-2017, 07:58 AM
 
Location: Finland
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i think the whole thing is a sham. Most big time athletes I have known in my time have doped its a known fact they do. To single out Russia is just silly. It is just a means for some fools to single out Russia for humiiation, that's all.

Max is correct. Russians know who is doing what and why. It's counterproductive.
The difference between Russia and all the others is that the Russian doping system was state-sanctioned and systematic. Even the FSB harassed anti-doping institutions in Russia.

Sure, there are doping used by athletes in all countries, but what Russia did is nothing but rivaling the former DDR.
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Old 11-11-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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First off I don't beleive it was state sanctioned. That's just proaganda. Second the Olympics and its associated entities in general are not high on my list of reputable institutions. Doping has always went on and always will.

Russia is simply singled out because well, it's good drama and its always safe to attack Russia. The western media controls the narrative on this one. It's all bullchit too.
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Old 11-11-2017, 08:24 AM
 
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Yes yes, Russia never does anything wrong.

Odd that it's the only country completely innocent of everything.

Why can't you LARP some real successful country, like Denmark?
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Old 11-11-2017, 10:17 AM
 
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Yes yes, Russia never does anything wrong.

Odd that it's the only country completely innocent of everything.

Why can't you LARP some real successful country, like Denmark?
No, Denmark their own, they have a priori can not be a problem.
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Old 11-11-2017, 06:10 PM
 
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Yes yes, Russia never does anything wrong.

Odd that it's the only country completely innocent of everything.

Why can't you LARP some real successful country, like Denmark?
When did I say Russia never did anything wrong? Recently they have a very good track record though. Except for Ukraine. They should have been in Kiev years ago.
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Old 11-11-2017, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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When did I say Russia never did anything wrong? Recently they have a very good track record though. Except for Ukraine. They should have been in Kiev years ago.
No I actually think it was wise of Russia to not invade Ukraine, it would just feed more into Russophobia and all of Europe would join NATO, even Belarus, and Russia would’ve been shunned by the whole world including China and India.
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