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That's it! And Russia has a lot of territory ! Unfair ! We have to cut it into small pieces! By the way, what about the separation of the Catholic Church? There is generally a monarchy as far as I understand. Where is democracy ? Where is justice ? Where? I ask you !
I don't want the Russian Federation to be broken up into smaller pieces, but as far as the church it only makes sense, since the entire Roman Empire wasn't even under one patriarch, it had 5. And as far as the Pope and the catholic church, well that is exactly why Catholics are no longer in communion with the other 4 patriarchs because the Roman Patriarchate wanted to become the head of the church which is blasphemy since that is Jesus's position. Now funny you bring this up because in many ways the Moscow patriarchate is following Romes example and they are going to create a schism and create their own church with one head similar to the catholic church.
and Ukraine is already an independent country so they should be given the right to form their own church, maybe not with filaret, but an independent one non the less. Kirill is like an over controlling mother that won't let her kids grow up and live their own independent adult lives.
Operators will be Syrian, already trained for a long time, in 2013 had to be the supply of C300 to Syria, but at the request of Israel frozen. So, the operators will be Syrian, but all systems will be included in the Russian air defense network.
I think that this is not so. Russian military plans to connect the S-300 to the Russian system of marking foreign aircraft. This secret technology is possible only if the operators are Russian military.
Secret Russian technology? LOL okay. This is sophisticated Russian technology: Fly a SU-35 towards American controlled airspace. Take picture of F-22 who showed up to let them know they can't go further. Claim said photo is somehow (a big leap, but that Russian soul...) proof that Russian technology can defeat F-22s.
As you can see the Russian church has more people than the other churches so I think it's only fair to have the Russian church broken up in to smaller churches, will probably help prevent corruption in the church too.
If I were the Patriarch of Moscow I would have the Metropolitan of Kiev form an independent Ukrainian orthodox church, that way Ukraine gets an independent church, but one that has friendly relations with Moscow rather than the alternative of having to face a nationalistic church headed by Filaret.
First of all Moscow doesn't care about corruption in the church or any other sphere of life. Control is all they care about. But you're onto something. The Patriarch of Constantinople has the reasons you mentioned to break up the Russian church.
Your numbers are off. Moscow claims 150 million adherents but they have nothing to back it up, and such a claim is easy to make up. Approximately 58 million people in Russia identify as Orthodox (note there are other Orthodox churches in Russia). Hard to think of where the other 92 million might live... What can be counted is the number of active parishes. Here it can be shown that Ukraine has as many as Russia (and Romania for that matter). So after the independence is granted, Russia, Ukraine and Romania will each have about the same number of churches, except not quite since many churches in Ukraine will decide to stay in Moscow's control. Hard to say how many though.
The only reason this is happening is because of millions of Ukrainians moving away from the Moscow churches which are viewed as complicit in Putin's war against Ukraine. Putin has caused what I thought impossible, yet again, by splitting the largest orthodox church in the world. His legacy will be the permanent split between fraternal peoples, in both the spiritual and political realms. All for the sake of fighting off threats to his power. But hey, he got Crimea back (was it ever really gone?).
Secret Russian technology? LOL okay. This is sophisticated Russian technology: Fly a SU-35 towards American controlled airspace. Take picture of F-22 who showed up to let them know they can't go further. Claim said photo is somehow (a big leap, but that Russian soul...) proof that Russian technology can defeat F-22s.
Maybe I wrote it wrong. The secret is a current operating code for the aircraft identification system. This code changes frequently and is not transferred to other armies.
First of all Moscow doesn't care about corruption in the church or any other sphere of life. Control is all they care about. But you're onto something. The Patriarch of Constantinople has the reasons you mentioned to break up the Russian church.
Your numbers are off. Moscow claims 150 million adherents but they have nothing to back it up, and such a claim is easy to make up. Approximately 58 million people in Russia identify as Orthodox (note there are other Orthodox churches in Russia). Hard to think of where the other 92 million might live... What can be counted is the number of active parishes. Here it can be shown that Ukraine has as many as Russia (and Romania for that matter). So after the independence is granted, Russia, Ukraine and Romania will each have about the same number of churches, except not quite since many churches in Ukraine will decide to stay in Moscow's control. Hard to say how many though.
The only reason this is happening is because of millions of Ukrainians moving away from the Moscow churches which are viewed as complicit in Putin's war against Ukraine. Putin has caused what I thought impossible, yet again, by splitting the largest orthodox church in the world.
I think the 150 million also accounts for believers outside of Russia as well as the other local churches under Moscow's jurisdiction.
Also the Russian orthodox church recognized autocephaly for the Polish orthodox church in 1948 and the Czech and Slovak orthodox church in 1951. So I think Moscow will recognize an independent church, it might take a few decades, but they will have to eventually fold, especially since non of the other patriarchs are speaking out in Moscow's favor.
What Max is talking about is an IFF system. It uses codes which an aircraft broadcasts. If a missile locked onto an aircraft hears this code it will not engage the aircraft.
Also the Russian orthodox church recognized autocephaly for the Polish orthodox church in 1948 and the Czech and Slovak orthodox church in 1951. So I think Moscow will recognize an independent church, it might take a few decades, but they will have to eventually fold, especially since non of the other patriarchs are speaking out in Moscow's favor.
Difference this time is Ukraine is much more central to the Russian faith than Estonia which was majority Lutheran for much of its history.
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