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Old 10-20-2018, 03:51 PM
 
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There was never any plans to invade Iran.

Salman is not on his way out.

Great story to reference, next time everyone gets hyped up about Russia, Putin, and Journalists. See, the US truly does not give a s**t about journalists, human rights, etc, they only use such subjects as social weapons against countries that have different interests. The US and the West screams all day about Russia's alleged poisoning of a spy, yet do zero, and try to calm everyone down when the Saudi's murder a journalist in Turkey. Hell, Trump is now saying he believes the ridiculous story about it.
Invasions lately occur by creating a pretext in the form of a manufactured humanitarian crisis that arises by setting off one ethnic group against another in the targeted country and by training and arming a mercenary force led by foreign intelligence services and special forces.

Reports are that the Saudi family is searching for a replacement for bin Salman as there are widespread calls against Saudi Arabia by major foreign leaders.

Although the Kurds represent a tiny portion of the Iranian population, they inhabit a region of Iran where the majority of the oil reserves lie. By invading Iraq, Exxon was able to secure the development contracts in autonomous Kurdistan within that country. BP and Total were the other major beneficiaries by developing Sunni and Shia oil fields.
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Old 10-20-2018, 06:38 PM
 
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I don't think US culture is totally to blame, things like this have been happening for millenia.
It's hard to miss this white t-shirt he wore; it was echoing the look of one of the Columbine shooters.


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The instruments used to carry out such acts has changed but not the human part of this. His mother left his father? That's no doubt part of it as is the influence from the various forms of media available to him.
Yes, his father was an abusive drunk so she left him, but there was more to it; they lived in slams, his mother ( being a nurse) could barely afford the rent. As I've said before - there is a *Soviet* kind of poverty, and there is American kind. He lived in poverty of American kind, so he was much more desperate and he hated his life.
His mother turned to religion ( she was part of Jehovah witness group,) he had nowhere to turn it seems, other than hatred and violence.

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Human society has always had this sickness in one form or another. Sad that for all we have accomplished we are still standing with one foot in the cave.
Oh he was definitely a sick in mind kid - he tortured and killed animals when he was a child ( which is a sure sign of trouble,) but I think the fact that he hated his life made him a loose cannon.
The question still remains - did someone advise him on bomb and all?
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Old 10-21-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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As Trump tries to exploit the Khashoggi murder to steer Saudi Arabia away from buying the Russian S-400 air defense system, here's the report on the U.S. THAAD:

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The same thing happened during the 1991 Gulf War, said Postol, a former Pentagon science advisor. "It seems in 25 years they haven't fixed it."

The Patriot flies a straight trajectory for the first four seconds after launch, during which time the missile accelerates past the sound barrier. The missile has a habit of malfunctioning during those initial seconds in the air. Of the apparent five separate Patriot launches that appear in videos from Riydah, two seem to have ended in premature explosions during the acceleration phase, Postol pointed out.

After four seconds in the air, a Patriot begins maneuvering and searching for a signal from the ground-based radar that helps to guide it. Three of the Saudi Patriots appear to have malfunctioned during this phase of flight. "They suddenly went downward and exploded," Postol said.

The failures over Saudi Arabia last weekend could point to a design flaw that critics such as Postol have been trying for decades to fix. "In the Gulf War of 1991, we definitely saw Patriots take off, turn around and dive to ground in both Saudi Arabia and in Israel," Postol told me.

"When we reported what we saw in videos from Israel, Raytheon claimed this only occured in Israel because the Israelis didn't know what they were doing. Then we uncovered videos of the missiles doing the same thing in Saudi Arabia."
US-made missile defenses spectacularly failed in Saudi Arabia
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Old 10-21-2018, 02:13 PM
 
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US pulls out from the INF treaty

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China’s growing nuclear capabilities are an added factor in the American calculus. Simply put, the jettisoning of the INF will free the hands of the US to develop new weapon systems and to make large-scale deployments along the borders of Russia and China to contain them.

Russia has military-technical capabilities to respond to the challenge posed by US walking out of IMF Treaty. The hypersonic missile that it has developed is an example. Besides, Russia can also respond by deploying intermediate- and short-range missiles at its borders. To be sure, all this will directly affect European security and it may even create, hopefully, a convergence of interests between Russia and European countries to preserve the INF. But the US may circumvent such a possibility by wearing down the European opposition by moving the discussion onto the multilateral NATO format.

Most importantly, the US pullout from INF treaty may bring the roof down on the New START treaty of 2010 and the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT). In fact, the likelihood is high that the New START treaty may not be renewed by 2021, as is required, or that the NPT can survive. All in all, what is on cards is the frightening scenario of a seamless, uncontrollable nuclear race – and the growing likelihood of a nuclear conflict.
https://indianpunchline.com/what-tru...-treaty-means/
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Old 10-22-2018, 10:03 AM
 
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interesting article on Putin's response to Khashoggi affair

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...shoggi-killing

US response is complicated by the relationship between Trump and the media and intelligence community.
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Old 10-23-2018, 01:01 PM
 
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Russia has been requesting an exemption to this treaty for a while. Russia's position, as stated by Robert Gates, is that Russia needs intermediate missiles to deter against regional threats like China and Pakistan. Russia at the time when Gates was Defense Secretary was pursuing an exemption to place these missiles for deterrence, and even offered monitoring of them to the NATO to ensure their purpose was not a threat to NATO.

I have no idea what the outcome as this information is from Gates' book Duty, and I have not found out anything about it.
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Old 10-23-2018, 02:00 PM
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China now has a more powerful military than Russia, perhaps for the 1st time since the 1500's. China has not given up its claims to parts of Siberia and Putin keeps them at bay with deals where China gets their resources at cost. China is the real threat and NATO is an imaginary threat.... well NATO is sort of a threat because it prevents Russia from reconquering what Stalin took.
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:27 PM
 
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Russia has been requesting an exemption to this treaty for a while. Russia's position, as stated by Robert Gates, is that Russia needs intermediate missiles to deter against regional threats like China and Pakistan. Russia at the time when Gates was Defense Secretary was pursuing an exemption to place these missiles for deterrence, and even offered monitoring of them to the NATO to ensure their purpose was not a threat to NATO.

I have no idea what the outcome as this information is from Gates' book Duty, and I have not found out anything about it.
That was the same time that the US was proposing missiles bases all over central and eastern Europe to "counter" Iran. Both sides used the same excuse. It was right after the largest NATO expansion so they had the regimes in place to accept the forward missiles bases.
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:49 PM
 
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China now has a more powerful military than Russia, perhaps for the 1st time since the 1500's. China has not given up its claims to parts of Siberia and Putin keeps them at bay with deals where China gets their resources at cost. China is the real threat and NATO is an imaginary threat.... well NATO is sort of a threat because it prevents Russia from reconquering what Stalin took.
There are no claims by China for anything, this conspiracy I have no idea why anyone brings it up.

China and Russia and pretty even military wise, but Russia retains a large nuclear arsenal and more variety of weapons and technology, plus their defense industry in innovation and production is ahead.

Not sure what you mean by Russia reconquering what Stalin took; what did Stalin take?
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Old 10-23-2018, 05:12 PM
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Not sure what you mean by Russia reconquering what Stalin took; what did Stalin take?
Directly: Eastern Poland, the Baltics, some of Finland, part of Romania, East Prussia. Yes Russia still controls some of what was taken, but you already knew this.
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