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Old 07-07-2020, 12:00 PM
 
Location: SoCal
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One of the best sales promotion vids you'll ever see.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=sBwvY_1594056907

https://kamaz.ru/
wtf, is that a road or a river?
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Old 07-07-2020, 12:16 PM
 
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wtf, is that a road or a river?

It can be either during floods, so stick around, we'll figure it out somehow)))
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Old 07-07-2020, 02:59 PM
 
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wtf, is that a road or a river?
In Russia they don't have roads, they have directions.

It's a Kamaz cargo truck. They're kind of a unique vehicle in the west but mass produced in Russia and shipped throughout the world. 6 wheel drive. Germanys Mann makes something similar as does Tatra, Iveco and Lockheed Martin in America. Kamaz makes more of these per year than all others combined.

Russia dominates the Paris Dakar Rally for heavy trucks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8d0_Itl9M4
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:05 PM
 
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In Russia they don't have roads, they have directions.

It's a Kamaz cargo truck. They're kind of a unique vehicle in the west but mass produced in Russia and shipped throughout the world. 6 wheel drive. Germanys Mann makes something similar as does Tatra, Iveco and Lockheed Martin in America. Kamaz makes more of these per year than all others combined.

Russia dominates the Paris Dakar Rally for heavy trucks.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8d0_Itl9M4

Interesting, in US that company would been fined heavily for that river driving and driver likely would been fired.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:07 PM
 
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In Siberia there's not a lot of roads so they use small ships for transport in the summer and when the land freezes they use ice roads. That's a flooded river and the driver probably knows it. You have to maintain highways, not rivers.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:09 PM
 
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Interesting, in US that company would been fined heavily for that river driving and driver likely would been fired.
I can't help but think you're correct. Fortunately we're designed differently and don't have to do that. Canada or Alaska they do it the same way.
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Old 07-07-2020, 03:45 PM
 
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Nord Stream news.

https://tass.com/economy/1175231
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Old 07-07-2020, 04:43 PM
 
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Oh, things are chugging along there?

I am keeping my eye on Donbass negotiations - looks like Putin is loosing his patience and he is basically cornering Zelensky with decision whether he is going to fulfill the legal part of the Minsk agreement - that is to proscribe special status for Donbass in Ukrainian constitution or not.

Zelensky answered that no one can talk to him like this, because he is a president of a "sovereign state" ( rotflmao,) but I guess Putin is not willing to come to any international meting any longer, unless this specific question is going to be answered.

The deadline was either yesterday or today from what I remember.
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Old 07-07-2020, 04:44 PM
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Considering i read that Putin will be president for next 16 years I assume he is dictator. From the history i learned about Russia in high school, i honestly do not see much difference between what is going on there in the 80's,90's and now. It appear that it's all government controlled, and government does what it wants. I guess it wasn't as open at that time as now but still it do not appear government change much.
You are missing a period in there, the 1st decade or so of the 2000's. That was the glory period of Russia with increasing investment, some policy changes, high energy prices and more. There were a lot of changes inside Russia in the past 4 decades, each with their own unique set of circumstances. Government control of the economy is now greater than it has been since the USSR collapsed.

It's also becoming more like the 80s in other ways including openness. The vast majority of Russians will never see the west as they have to go through some difficult processes (both internal and external) to visit and outbound tourism has dropped in the past six years. State run TV is back with similar depictions as the 80s (showing how good it is in Russia and how bad it is in western countries) and updated for the internet we have state sponsored video blogs for example. A compliant press dutifully reports increasing grain harvests. They are always just about to launch a game changing technological achievement that gets shown off but never really turns out the way they said.
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Old 07-07-2020, 04:50 PM
 
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You are missing a period in there, the 1st decade or so of the 2000's. That was the glory period of Russia with increasing investment, some policy changes, high energy prices and more. There were a lot of changes inside Russia in the past 4 decades, each with their own unique set of circumstances. Government control of the economy is now greater than it has been since the USSR collapsed.

It's also becoming more like the 80s in other ways including openness. The vast majority of Russians will never see the west as they have to go through some difficult processes (both internal and external) to visit and outbound tourism has dropped in the past six years. State run TV is back with similar depictions as the 80s (showing how good it is in Russia and how bad it is in western countries) and updated for the internet we have state sponsored video blogs for example. A compliant press dutifully reports increasing grain harvests. They are always just about to launch a game changing technological achievement that gets shown off but never really turns out the way they said.

With exception of current US president, is US/Russia back at cold war status? Being Russia now controls exit like they did before, does it mean that Russian citizens also can't visit other former USSR republics?
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