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Old 07-05-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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The UK is obviously in Northern Europe and thats that.

Get over it, accept it and move on. We have argued this to the point of no return, we have come to the conclusion that Northern Europe ends at 50N.

Close this thread please.
UK is not a Nordic country. 75% of the population lives in England and Wales, not Scotland or NI. The majority of the UK landmass is below 55°N, which marks the German-Danish border. You're Western Europe, not Northern.
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Old 07-05-2015, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Old 07-05-2015, 12:55 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Why are people still arguing over this 57 degrees is the geographical mid point (latitude) of the European continent - FACT, everything North of that is in the Northern half, everything South of that is in the Southern half - FACT, who lives where or what your Aunt, Brother or Sister thinks of as Northern or Southern Europe is irrelevant, you can do the same calculation for longitude if you like to see where the East / West divide is too.
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:01 PM
 
Location: Finland
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Why are people still arguing over this 57 degrees is the geographical mid point (latitude) of the European continent - FACT, everything North of that is in the Northern half, everything South of that is in the Southern half - FACT
You're talking about a different thing. You're the first who's talking about halfs.

Most classifications divide Europe in North, Centre and South.
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:11 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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You're talking about a different thing. You're the first who's talking about halfs.

Most classifications divide Europe in North, Centre and South.
The question is purely geographical (that's what north, south, east and west are - geographical terms) and the FACT is that 57 degrees is the latidude that cuts Europe in half north to south, north of that latidude is in the northern half and south is in the southern half, that is an inarguable fact, you can split the continent into 3 equal parts if you like so you can then add a 'central Europe' to the mix, in fact let's cut the continent in half east to west, then we will truly know where the centre of Europe is too!
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Old 07-05-2015, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Finland
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The question is purely geographical (that's what north, south, east and west are - geographical terms) and the FACT is that 57 degrees is the latidude that cuts Europe in half north to south, north of that latidude is in the northern half and south is in the southern half, that is an inarguable fact, you can split the continent into 3 equal parts if you like so you can then add a 'central Europe' to the mix, in fact let's cut the continent in half east to west, then we will truly know where the centre of Europe is too!
After a re-estimation of the boundaries of the continent of Europe in 1989, Jean-George Affholder, a scientist at the Institut Géographique National (French National Geographic Institute) determined that the geographic centre of Europe is located at 54°54′N 25°19′E.[1] The method used for calculating this point was that of the centre of gravity of the geometrical figure of Europe. This point is located in Lithuania, specifically 26 kilometres (16 mi) north of its capital city, Vilnius, near the village of PurnuÅ¡kės.

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Old 07-05-2015, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Near Tours, France about 47°10'N 0°25'E
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The question is purely geographical (that's what north, south, east and west are - geographical terms) and the FACT is that 57 degrees is the latidude that cuts Europe in half north to south, north of that latidude is in the northern half and south is in the southern half, that is an inarguable fact, you can split the continent into 3 equal parts if you like so you can then add a 'central Europe' to the mix, in fact let's cut the continent in half east to west, then we will truly know where the centre of Europe is too!
Your "north south dividing line" at 57°N precisely does not cut Europe in two halfs. The landmass further north consists mainly of Scandinaia. Woth thins kind of thinking, Chicago would be in the south of the US, because of the presence of Alaska...

The line that divide the europe in two equal halfs is more or less around 50°N. It is not a surprise since :
- This line cut the main European landmass (without the peninsulas and islands located north and south of European mainlandmass) just in the middle of it, in two equal halfs
- There are about as much population north and south of this line
- The capital of the EU (Brussels), located close to this line, has not been shoosen arbitraryly: it is between northern and southern Europe, and between latin and Germany cultures north or south of it. Brussels is a symbolic city to represent the idea of uniting the northern and southern Europes...
- this line follows more or less disivion line between the Europe of wine vs the Europe of beer...

Another limit, located around represent well another limit between the northern and southern halfs of Europe: it the latitude of the major geographic feature (the Alps) that divide the German-speaking world with The southern European world. In France this line is the Loire Vally, which is often seen as a transition between northern and southern France, below this line the architecture is tipically southern/mediterranean (roman tiles).

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Old 07-05-2015, 02:09 PM
 
Location: SE UK
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Your "north south dividing line" at 57°N precisely does not cut Europe in two halfs. The landmass further north consists mainly of Scandinaia. Woth thins kind of thinking, Chicago would be in the south of the US, because of the presence of Alaska...

The line that divide the europe in two equal halfs is more or less around 50°N. It is not a surprise since :
- This line cut the main European landmass (without the peninsulas and islands located north and south of European mainlandmass) just in the middle of it, in two equal halfs
- There are about as much population north and south of this line
- The capital of the EU (Brussels), located close to this line, has not been shoosen arbitraryly: it is between northern and southern Europe, and between latin and Germany cultures north or south of it. Brussels is a symbolic city to represent the idea of uniting the northern and southern Europes...
- this line follows more or less disivion line between the Europe of wine vs the Europe of beer...

Another limit, located around represent well another limit between the northern and southern halfs of Europe: it the latitude of the major geographic feature (the Alps) that divide the German-speaking world with The southern European world. In France this line is the Loire Vally, which is often seen as a transition between northern and southern France, below this line the architecture is tipically southern/mediterranean (roman tiles).
What's landmass have to do with anything!!!!!? The halfway point between the northernmost point of Europe and the Southernmost point is 57 degrees and what you 'think' doesn't make any difference to that FACT,
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Old 07-05-2015, 05:16 PM
 
Location: Castlederp
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If you take the northernmost point and southernmost point of mainland Europe, the divide between north and south is about 57N.

If you were to measure this culturally, then places like northern France, Belgium, Netherlands, UK have a lot more in common with each other than they do with Scandinavia which is truly northern European.

Personally, I would say that the UK, France, Benelux, Switzerland, maybe also Germany is western Europe.
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Old 07-05-2015, 06:59 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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