[Spring Hillian]

It should be televised on CSPAN. The message would be "you take a life, you loose yours and here is how its done".

Originally Posted by New Horizons

I have a feeling the electric chair is more of a "spectator sport".

[limehousemiller]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

It should be televised on CSPAN. The message would be "you take a life, you loose yours and here is how its done".

Look, pal, the trouble is that this type of barbaric thinking does not actually reduce the number of murders, which should be the primary purpose of any law or punishment, but rather the only purpose the death penalty serves is revenge, which the law is supposed to be free from. Governments should never be given the power to execute its own citizens in situations where the citizens are unable to harm the public. Every citizen of the USA should be thoroughly outraged and disgusted that the USA still uses the barbaric death penalty.

[New Horizons]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

It should be televised on CSPAN. The message would be "you take a life, you loose yours and here is how its done".

Sounds like great family entertainment. Break out the TV dinners and TV trays.

[Spring Hillian]

Hey, Jocko, it probably does not deter murders, but it sure cant hurt. Take those two in CT. Tied up a family, burned the kids alive, raped and killed the mother, the father (a doctor) got away and survived.

Should we let them sit in their jail cells until they die naturally or should we let the bleed out after we hack off their feet? I think the provision of the death penalty is the easy way out for them. More important it brings a sense of closure to the survivors of such acts and the families and friends of the victims. I think the feelings of those people are much more valuable than the heartbeat of the scum that are sitting in the cell.

Originally Posted by limehousemiller

Look, pal, the trouble is that this type of barbaric thinking does not actually reduce the number of murders, which should be the primary purpose of any law or punishment, but rather the only purpose the death penalty serves is revenge, which the law is supposed to be free from. Governments should never be given the power to execute its own citizens in situations where the citizens are unable to harm the public. Every citizen of the USA should be thoroughly outraged and disgusted that the USA still uses the barbaric death penalty.

[limehousemiller]

Originally Posted by New Horizons

Sounds like great family entertainment. Break out the TV dinners and TV trays.

Yes, I'm sure watching somebody, who is most likely completely innocent, get executed by the government qualifies as quality family entertainment in some circles, but the purpose of our justice system is not to provide entertainment for the public.

[Spring Hillian]

Hey, chisel chest......

Do you really believe they are innocent? How about the clown there were supposed to off last night?

I would be the farm that if a relative of yours was raped, tortured and killed you would be the first on line to push the buttons. Everybody is a liberal until something happens to them. When it is someone elses dime, you make the call.

I am not calling it entertainment. I am calling it payday for the families and friends of the victims.

And whats the difference, you hate TV anyway.

Originally Posted by limehousemiller

Yes, I'm sure watching somebody, who is most likely completely innocent, get executed by the government qualifies as quality family entertainment in some circles, but the purpose of our justice system is not to provide entertainment for the public.

[limehousemiller]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

Hey, Jocko, it probably does not deter murders, but it sure cant hurt. Take those two in CT. Tied up a family, burned the kids alive, raped and killed the mother, the father (a doctor) got away and survived.

Should we let them sit in their jail cells until they die naturally or should we let the bleed out after we hack off their feet? I think the provision of the death penalty is the easy way out for them. More important it brings a sense of closure to the survivors of such acts and the families and friends of the victims. I think the feelings of those people are much more valuable than the heartbeat of the scum that are sitting in the cell.

Hey Fleetwood, it sure can't hurt is not really a convincing reason for doing something, and furthermore the justice system is supposed to be free of emotions, so providing closure for the victim's family is not in any way a compelling reason either for allowing the government to execute people. Our justice system in the USA is not supposed to be a tool for revenge. In addition, you are assuming that everybody on death row is guilty of whatever crime put them on death row, which thanks to recent advances in science technology we have seen this is clearly not the case. In Texas, for instance, all one needs to do is accuse some random black person of murder and they will be sent to death row.

If the justice system cannot guarantee 100% accuracy, I don't understand how you, even as the death penalty's greatest fan, be in favor of executing innocent people.

How many innocent people being executed by the government are you cool with?

[Spring Hillian]

Tell me then genius how many have been executed in the US who were later proven innocent?

Maybe we should take up some of the punishment doled out in other countries. You steal someones car, they chop off your hands. No more stealing cars for you.

Originally Posted by limehousemiller

Hey Fleetwood, it sure can't hurt is not really a convincing reason for doing something, and furthermore the justice system is supposed to be free of emotions, so providing closure for the victim's family is not in any way a compelling reason either for allowing the government to execute people. Our justice system in the USA is not supposed to be a tool for revenge. In addition, you are assuming that everybody on death row is guilty of whatever crime put them on death row, which thanks to recent advances in science technology we have seen this is clearly not the case. In Texas, for instance, all one needs to do is accuse some random black person of murder and they will be sent to death row.

If the justice system cannot guarantee 100% accuracy, I don't understand how you, even as the death penalty's greatest fan, be in favor of executing innocent people.

How many innocent people being executed by the government are you cool with?

[limehousemiller]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

Hey, chisel chest......

Do you really believe they are innocent? How about the clown there were supposed to off last night?

I would be the farm that if a relative of yours was raped, tortured and killed you would be the first on line to push the buttons. Everybody is a liberal until something happens to them. When it is someone elses dime, you make the call.

I am not calling it entertainment. I am calling it payday for the families and friends of the victims.

And whats the difference, you hate TV anyway.

Hey, Inspector Gadget, take a look and see how many people have been freed from death row based on DNA evidence that proved their evidence. Take a look and see how many people admitted guilt at the time because they believed it would somehow help them, only to spend ten years on death row before DNA proved their innocence.

If somebody killed my wife, I'd want to kill them for sure, but guess what , the USA justice system is supposed to be free of such emotions, which you, seem to be having an extremely difficult time grasping.

Lookey here Cactus Pete we gonna get up there and ride that horse into town, the USA government should not be killing people to provide a payday for the family and friends of the victims. In your world, why even bother with the trial? Why not just allow people to kill people in the streets, like chimpanzees, to satisfy their blood-lust and just knock it off with the stupid trials, which you hate so much?

[limehousemiller]

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

Tell me then genius how many have been executed in the US who were later proven innocent?

Maybe we should take up some of the punishment doled out in other countries. You steal someones car, they chop off your hands. No more stealing cars for you.

You have been pushing an extremely primitive line of thought, so perhaps it is no surprise that you would be advocating the we, here in the USA should be looking toward nations such as Saudi Arabia as a legal system model. If we start chopping body parts off, would we then also start executing female rape victims and then demand that the rapists pay restitution to the victims families?

How about instead of chopping the hands off of car thieves we provide car thieves with better options than stealing cars?