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And so it all comes down to being black again. Why do you keep arguing?
I keep replying to people addressing me, as I am polite...
Of course being black is indirectly part of it. Because from experience we know that in Europe (and in the US as well if you are honest) black people are usually not nearly as wealthy as white people. However, I am sure even most white people could not afford such a bag and the saleswoman might have reacted the same way.
That doesn't mean, though, that the saleswoman is racist, after all, how could she be racist when she knows most white people, i.e. of her own race, can't afford that, either?
Maybe she was just trying to keep someone from losing face...
So you've just said Oprah was filtered for some reason--what reason might that be if it isn't because she's black? I highly doubt that she came in badly or inexpensively dressed, or poorly groomed. What other factor is there that would you lead you to believe that her race wasn't the issue? The salesperson came right out and said that she couldn't afford the expensive bag to her face. I'd love to hear your logic on this one.
It is possible that it was race. All I say is that if we're going to make that accusation against the clerk, let's have evidence of racism. The filter could have been based on many things. Demeanor, dress, nationality, things she said, etc. Presumably Oprah was not inexpensively dressed, but it's possible that there was just a clash between Oprah's tastes and the clerk's tastes. Maybe the clerk had just dealt with 5 American tire-kickers that day, and didn't want a sixth. We don't know.
What is your evidence that the clerk acted based on race?
No. That's not what would happen. She point blank told her she couldn't afford the bag and refused to take it down, because she thought it was a waste of her time to show it to her, and time equals sales opportunities. She refused to show it to her because she assumed she couldn't afford it because she's black.
Would she have assumed Honey Boo Boo could afford the purse?
I myself would assume very very few people could afford a $38,000 purse. No matter what color they are.
What's pathetic is this fraud actually is traveling about the world and pretends to care about people while she spends enormous sums on things like purses.
Oprah Winfrey and Honey Boo Boo's family is not an apples to apples comparison. Sorry.
Not at all--- both came from nothing, both are getting rich on television shows, only Honey Boo Boos isn't causing suicides. I'm pretty sure by now Honey Boo Boo could also afford an Oprah level purse but might not have such screwed up values -- yet.
She is talented to some extent. She's great at the fake compassion and empathy stuff --- that's how she made it big in the first place. She would get people with screwed up lives, serious mental problems and egg them on, get them to confess the most hidious aspects of their lives, urge them to humiliate themselves completely on her stage, and some committed suicide -- didn't bother Oprah, she was getting extremely rich. She's no better than Madoff -- exploit weak people for money.
Now she's a 1%er and truly believes she is special.
I'm not an Oprah fan either--my attitude is more along the lines of "suck it up" when I'm faced with challenges--but what does that have to do with her building a media empire and being one of the richest people in the world? You may not like HOW she made her money, but she' obviously had the business saavy to do it. No one can say she's not a self made woman with extraordinary business sense.
Not at all--- both came from nothing, both are getting rich on television shows, only Honey Boo Boos isn't causing suicides. I'm pretty sure by now Honey Boo Boo could also afford an Oprah level purse but might not have such screwed up values -- yet.
Honeey boo boo makes around $15K per episode and she's a performer. Oprah owns a media empire and she's a billionaire.
The wealthiest Black people in the world are not "celebrities" so what should it matter that the sales clerk did not recognize her as a tv personality.
No. That's not what would happen. She point blank told her she couldn't afford the bag and refused to take it down, because she thought it was a waste of her time to show it to her, and time equals sales opportunities. She refused to show it to her because she assumed she couldn't afford it because she's black.
all yuh need to do is say no prob with the money, how much?
Last edited by macpherson; 08-11-2013 at 02:40 PM..
Unrelated but the situation was in reverse compared to Oprah problem etc.
Some decades back a man in scruffy clothes went into a Chevy dealership and was looking at cars in the showroom.
The salesmen ignored him so the man walked across the street to a Ford dealer and bought a half dozen NEW cars paying CASH.
The man was a merchant seaman who had just returned from Asia and he along with his fellow seamen had gotten paid and they asked him to go out and buy cars for them....which he did in the SF bay area.
I lived in Castro Valley at the time and read about the car purchases in the newspaper.
In a similar vain, at a conference a keynote speaker related the case of an IBM executive who went to his local bank for a transaction. The bank offered validated parking to avoid a couple dollar fee. The IBM executive forgot to get his validation and reentered the bank and was informed by the attendant at the door that he couldn't validate his parking unless he was there to conduct some business. The executive proceeded to start the transfer process for several million dollars worth of IBM accounts that he controlled to another bank. He then requested his parking validation.
Its best not to make too many assumptions about your potential customers.
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