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Learning a new language as an adult is an incredibly difficult and it kills me every time I hear people talk about like it's nothing or that it's anyone's plan that their children experience the same thing. Living in a place where you don't speak the dominant language is embarrassing and opens you up to the most casual cruelty. I wish people who rail against parts of LA being exactly like Mexico or whatever could feel the pathetic sense of gratitude I used to feel when customer service people would go out of their way to help me when it became obvious I couldn't sensibly explain what I needed. Having a place you can go where basic understanding isn't hard work is incredibly important and hearing people talk about them like they are affronts to America seems so lacking in empathy that I can't even.
Learning a new language as an adult is an incredibly difficult and it kills me every time I hear people talk about like it's nothing or that it's anyone's plan that their children experience the same thing. Living in a place where you don't speak the dominant language is embarrassing and opens you up to the most casual cruelty. I wish people who rail against parts of LA being exactly like Mexico or whatever could feel the pathetic sense of gratitude I used to feel when customer service people would go out of their way to help me when it became obvious I couldn't sensibly explain what I needed. Having a place you can go where basic understanding isn't hard work is incredibly important and hearing people talk about them like they are affronts to America seems so lacking in empathy that I can't even.
Well the simple solution of course is to not move to a different country that doesn't speak your language. By consciously moving to another country you are making the decision to make that place your home and if you want to spare yourself the "embarrassment" either A) learn the language or B) spare yourself the "incredibly difficult" task of learning a new language and don't move. I don't feel sorry for immigrants who don't speak the language of their new country because that is a conscious decision and decisions have consequences.
I would bet that you don't have anything against the Amish. After all, they are white and European descended. They have absolutely nothing in common with 99% of Americans. They live their lives according to their values and morals, speak the language they choose, educate their children how they see fit, do not join the military or fight in wars, accept no social benefits from the government and don't vote.
And by doing all of that they contribute more to the betterment of civilization than your average western caught up the soulless cycle of consumerism. Shallow materialistic, celebrity gossip mongering SJW hashtag slacktivists who mindlessly vote (R) or (D).
There's a very old saying that still applies today: When in Rome, do as the Romans. The implication that not doing as the Romans, when in Rome, will lead to problems.
If people don't like their native country to the extent that they want to move to a new country, then presumably a great deal of thought is put into that decision, and especially into the choice of which "new" country to move to ... and why that new country is so much more desireable.
What is baffling is the strange decision by some to, in their new country, attempt to transplant everything that was left behind in the native country ... which results in making the new country as unbearable and intolerable as the native country. Now why would anyone want to do that ... unless ... perhaps the objective to cause problems. It makes no sense to me.
None sense you just do not associate with the romans. This melting pot theory is bunk. The rich des not want to hangout with the wino .the same by core beliefs and values.
Why is Xenophobia a bad thing? I only want to associate with native English speaking American citizens who love America more than everything but their mother. I make no apology for that.
Why is Xenophobia a bad thing? I only want to associate with native English speaking American citizens who love America more than everything but their mother. I make no apology for that.
That being the case, you should be the first person to leave considering that America has NEVER been like that. There are populations here who don't speak English as a first language who've been here longer than you (Cajuns, Tejanos, Mennonites, Amish, and obviously Native Americans) and you're Italian arse is as foreign as anyone else. Your America does not exist.
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Originally Posted by SoCalbound12
Well the simple solution of course is to not move to a different country that doesn't speak your language. By consciously moving to another country you are making the decision to make that place your home and if you want to spare yourself the "embarrassment" either A) learn the language or B) spare yourself the "incredibly difficult" task of learning a new language and don't move. I don't feel sorry for immigrants who don't speak the language of their new country because that is a conscious decision and decisions have consequences.
I actually agree with this to some degree. I don't think its okay for people to move somewhere and not learn the language of that place, regardless of what it is.
If people don't like their native country to the extent that they want to move to a new country, then presumably a great deal of thought is put into that decision, and especially into the choice of which "new" country to move to ... and why that new country is so much more desireable.
Is it really your experience that ethnic enclaves are an attempt to transplant everything from the old country? They're just neighborhoods. What would transplanting everything even mean? No matter how many Middle Eastern bakeries there are in my neighborhood and how much Arabic I can hear on the street my neighborhood doesn't have the same problems as Iraq.
There should be no public place in this country where you feel like an outcast or outside of the mainstream for being a monolingual English speaking American, which is the norm in this country.
Why should I "integrate" when English speakers made ZERO effort to adapt to the existing Native American culture/language?
Besides, what are you gonna tell the Native Americans that still preserve their culture and language?
I'm saying that they tried to be American and you can become American, my parents didn't come in the early wave they came in the 50s (my dad) and 60s..they are thoroughly American because they tried to be.
BS,
In St. Louis there's still an area called "The Hill" that is full of Italian flags.
And don't even talk about Irish (St. Pat's) and Germans (Oktoberfest)
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