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Old 08-13-2018, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Really?

You're unfamiliar with the Korean War? The Vietnam War?

Invasions of Grenada and Panama?

The Gulf War?

Afghanistan? Iraq?

More limited but still very real actions in Lybia and Syria?



How can you claim to be unaware of all these conflicts where the U.S. kills non-white people to advance our economic and geopolitical interests?

To be fair, we did kill some white people in Kosovo. So thanks for killing those white people to advice our geopolitical interests. Great job folks

Isn't *honest praise* worth more than fairytales about 'freedom'?
well, I am only saying nobody joined the military to kill brown people, however they are used by the government is something we are all responsible for.

I certainly don't believe it is even fair to blame the military service members only for American foreign policy. Soldiers did not start the war.
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Old 08-13-2018, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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well, I am only saying nobody joined the military to kill brown people, however they are used by the government is something we are all responsible for.
I agree that most people aren't joining up to kill brown people. Some are... but not most. However, killing brown people who won't do as we say has been at the root of nearly every conflict the U.S. military has been involved in since WWII (Kosovo being the only exception I can think of).

Shouldn't they be thanked for *that*? I mean, if the U.S. military was... I dunno... defending my freedom from some credible threat, I'd thank them for that. But that's not what they do as far as I can tell.

So thanks, military people, for killing brown people who refuse to do what we demand. Y'all are the best at it. Thanks for your service
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I agree that most people aren't joining up to kill brown people. Some are... but not most. However, killing brown people who won't do as we say has been at the root of nearly every conflict the U.S. military has been involved in since WWII (Kosovo being the only exception I can think of).

Shouldn't they be thanked for *that*? I mean, if the U.S. military was... I dunno... defending my freedom from some credible threat, I'd thank them for that. But that's not what they do as far as I can tell.

So thanks, military people, for killing brown people who refuse to do what we demand. Y'all are the best at it. Thanks for your service
well, like I said, however they are used by the government is something you and I (all of us) are responsible for.

If you are mad at the foreign policy, then maybe you should blame the politicians. Why blame the military service members for it?

Plus, if you don't want to "thank" them, don't. I doubt many veterans really care. I certainly treat everybody with respect and human decency and I don't like to judge others based on their career choices. But that is just me.

<shrug>

Your last paragraph, well, I am sure you pay tax, no? If you pay tax, then you are part of the "killing brown people" too, are you not? why pretending you are innocent, and only the military is guilty?
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:09 PM
 
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well,

U.S. forces have a long and proud tradition of delivering humanitarian aid in crisis situations. No private relief organization is able to provide such vast quantities of manpower and supplies on short notice almost anywhere in the world.

Media does not report these humanitarian missions though.

Well then, if that is such a major component of what he military does, why doesn't it just become a humanitarian force. Skip the billion dollar planes that make the previous billion dollar planes obsolete, skip the 34 million dollar unused military bases (that made some contractor wealthy). Skip all the bases in 100 different countries sucking up billions of gallons of fuel annually to shuttle personnel back and forth. Skip ALL that sh*t and either provide the aid or bring them back home to 'defend OUR way of life' and 'our freedom' here. Because NO barefooted peasant in Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Libya, or Syria, or anywhere for that matter is threatening ANY of those things.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Well then, if that is such a major component of what he military does, why doesn't it just become a humanitarian force. Skip the billion dollar planes that make the previous billion dollar planes obsolete, skip the 34 million dollar unused military bases (that made some contractor wealthy). Skip all the bases in 100 different countries sucking up billions of gallons of fuel annually to shuttle personnel back and forth. Skip ALL that sh*t and either provide the aid or bring them back home to 'defend OUR way of life' and 'our freedom' here. Because NO barefooted peasant in Afghanistan, or Iraq, or Libya, or Syria, or anywhere for that matter is threatening ANY of those things.
well, learn to follow the dialogue.

I am responding to the poster who claims military is used to kill brown people.

You too, if you are mad at the foreign policy, you have every right to. But why pretending only military is responsible for these mess?

back to the topic, maybe a lot of people say thank you for your service just to be polite. who knows? If you don't want to thank them, you don't need to.

Plus, "I think military service members deserve respect" does not mean "other groups don't deserve respect" This is not a popularity contest.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:17 PM
 
Location: New Jersey!!!!
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I guess I’m safe from the racialist leftists’ ire since my “killing” was done in Kosovo and Bosnia.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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well, like I said, however they are used by the government is something you and I (all of us) are responsible for.

If you are mad at the foreign policy, then maybe you should blame the politicians. Why blame the military service members for it?

Plus, if you don't want to "thank" them, don't. I doubt many veterans really care. I certainly treat everybody with respect and human decency and I don't like to judge others based on their career choices. But that is just me.

<shrug>

Your last paragraph, well, I am sure you pay tax, no? If you pay tax, then you are part of the "killing brown people" too, are you not? why pretending you are innocent, and only the military is guilty?
Who says I'm "blaming"? Or "don't want to thank them"? I haven't "blamed" anybody and I've thanked our military people repeatedly. I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth.

I just think we should thank our veterans and active-duty military people for what they *do*. Not some fairytale about "defending freedom" which hasn't credibly happened since WWII.

The Romans had no problem acknowledging and praising their military for any number of conquests that brought riches and glory to Rome. Our economic and geopolitical structure is far more complex of course, but that's basically what our military does today (usually by killing disobedient brown people).

And THAT is what they deserve to be thanked for Thanks for Making America Great by killing people who are inconvenient to us but no direct threat
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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<shrug>

Your last paragraph, well, I am sure you pay tax, no? If you pay tax, then you are part of the "killing brown people" too, are you not? why pretending you are innocent, and only the military is guilty?

Well, that's a little lame. Once your tax money leaves your pocket you have little say where it goes. Discussion boards, such as these are where people express their anger at the immorality of where much of it is spent, but it doesn't amount to a hill of beans. America is a warlike entity - the most aggressive in the world. Not even the "axis of evil" countries, that we are so intent on making our next targets, are invading other countries. They may talk some crap in response to our aggression, but it's only the US that finds constant justification to invade others.


Tying support for military actions to love of country is a fool's tactic. The country is it's diverse people, it's stunning beauty, the opportunities to live as you choose. It is not politicians, Wall Street or never questioning the nefarious activities that the military engages in.



But to get back to the original question posed to this forum. No, I will not thank military agents for their service. They are just another necessary (though misused) component of what makes a society. The mailman, garbage man and parks department employees do a lot more for my 'way of life' than a soldier does.
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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I guess I’m safe from the racialist leftists’ ire since my “killing” was done in Kosovo and Bosnia.
What ire? I'm just thanking people in an honest manner.

Thankyou for killing those white people who were detrimental to our geopolitical interests- even if they were no credible threat to us in any way
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Old 08-13-2018, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Who says I'm "blaming"? Or "don't want to thank them"? I haven't "blamed" anybody and I've thanked our military people repeatedly. I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth.
yeah, my bad, you did thank them!


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So thanks, military people, for killing brown people who refuse to do what we demand. Y'all are the best at it. Thanks for your service
I guess no more discussion is needed.
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