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Chauvin practiced the same level of force when he knelt on a teenage boy’s back for 17 minutes as he responded to a domestic assault call three years earlier.
The court document describes footage in which Chauvin talked to the mother for about 36 minutes before he went to look for her son. He then found the 14-year-old son lying on the floor in his bedroom looking at his phone. Chauvin and another officer told him to stand up because he was under arrest. The boy refused and added that his mother was drunk and assaulted him.
The court filing says the child tried to talk with officers about his mother, but they yelled at him to stand up. The officers quickly grabbed him and Chauvin hit the child in the head with his flashlight.
Two seconds later, Chauvin grabbed the boy’s throat and struck him again in the head with the flashlight.
“The child cried out that they were hurting him, and to stop, and called out ‘mom,’” according to the filing.
Chauvin applied a neck restraint, causing the child to temporarily pass out and fall to the ground. The officers placed him in the prone position and handcuffed him behind his back while his mother pleaded with the officers not to kill her son and told her son to stop resisting.
“About a minute after going to the ground, the child began repeatedly telling the officers that he could not breathe, and his mother told Chauvin to take his knee off her son,” prosecutors wrote. They added that the mother asked Chauvin to take his knee off her son four times because her son couldn’t breathe, but that Chauvin maintained his position and replied that her son, who Chauvin described as 6 feet, 2 inches tall and at least 240 pounds, was “a big guy.”
FYI Breonna Taylor herself did nothing wrong: she had already ended the relationship with the guy the police were investigating.
Another rebuttal: even if one was doing something wrong, why did the police resort to killing instead of lower-level methods, especially for petty crimes like selling loose cigarettes (Eric Garner)
Don't think I disagreed, with either of those statements. I don't think just because you shoplift, sell loose cigarettes, jaywalking, running away from police, argue with police officers, the police should have any right to shoot you. I hope my post doesn't convey that idea at all. I was just saying that shanv is generally right, that if your respectful or kowtow to police officers, they generally give you zero problems, even if your black.
Like the Dallas kid who got wrongly arrested in the middle of the winter freeze. He was being disrespectful towards the officer, and she then power-tripped and arrested him for walking home.
I was saying that Breonna Taylor was under investigation because of her ex and the police messed up. I only added context there because people seem to confuse her Ex, the drug dealer, with her current boyfriend who legally fired on the police as they broke into his home.
Like I said their is Philando Castille, Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean as well as countless historical examples of people just beaten up for existing. But if your not committing a crime, and your respectful/ass-kissy towards police officers your safety from police brutality is somewhat guaranteed.
The act of committing a crime or being disrespectful doesn't give the police free rein to beat you or arrest you (when your disrespectful), but you can't be putting out constant negative energy towards police officers, and not expect one to eventually power-trip and violate your rights.
Don't think I disagreed, with either of those statements. I don't think just because you shoplift, sell loose cigarettes, jaywalking, running away from police, argue with police officers, the police should have any right to shoot you. I hope my post doesn't convey that idea at all. I was just saying that shanv is generally right, that if your respectful or kowtow to police officers, they generally give you zero problems, even if your black.
Like the Dallas kid who got wrongly arrested in the middle of the winter freeze. He was being disrespectful towards the officer, and she then power-tripped and arrested him for walking home.
I was saying that Breonna Taylor was under investigation because of her ex and the police messed up. I only added context there because people seem to confuse her Ex, the drug dealer, with her current boyfriend who legally fired on the police as they broke into his home.
Like I said their is Philando Castille, Breonna Taylor and Botham Jean as well as countless historical examples of people just beaten up for existing. But if your not committing a crime, and your respectful/ass-kissy towards police officers your safety from police brutality is somewhat guaranteed.
The act of committing a crime or being disrespectful doesn't give the police free rein to beat you or arrest you (when your disrespectful), but you can't be putting out constant negative energy towards police officers, and not expect one to eventually power-trip and violate your rights.
No one should have to kiss a police officer's ass to keep from being arrested for aggravated mopery or to keep from getting shot. Cops need to grow a pair, realize some people are having a bad day, and be more patient. Cops who mistreat people for being disrespectful need to be removed from the force, but that doesn't seem to happen until someone dies or is injured.
No one should have to kiss a police officer's ass to keep from being arrested for aggravated mopery or to keep from getting shot. Cops need to grow a pair, realize some people are having a bad day, and be more patient. Cops who mistreat people for being disrespectful need to be removed from the force, but that doesn't seem to happen until someone dies or is injured.
Man...preach A badge & a gun doesn't give someone a license to act a fool at random. I truly believe most police officers were picked on as kids so they go into law enforcement to get revenge.
No one should have to kiss a police officer's ass to keep from being arrested for aggravated mopery or to keep from getting shot. Cops need to grow a pair, realize some people are having a bad day, and be more patient. Cops who mistreat people for being disrespectful need to be removed from the force, but that doesn't seem to happen until someone dies or is injured.
Agreed. Not everyone has the temperament to be a cop - you can't let people get to you to the point where you commit a crime against someone. Dealing with difficult members of the public is part of the job (though perhaps some interactions shouldn't be).
Don't speak on behalf of Houston. George Floyd was a scumbag. How about you mourn the men and women who die for their countries, not some scumbag who put a knife to a pregnant woman's stomach.
It doesn't matter if George Floyd was Ted Bundy himself - in this country we should not be practicing extrajudicial killing by the police. Period. Men and women who died for their countries is a canard in the context of this conversation. The question is whether this man caused the death of another man while physically restraining him. What Mr. Floyd did in his life is irrelevant.
Well I can make it real simple for you, read the autopsy report. Fentanyl Floyd OD'd by himself. It shows this nations moral compass that you sympathize with criminals rather than people who live an honest life and die with honor.
No, autopsy doesn’t say George Floyd died of overdose
IF YOUR TIME IS SHORT
Two autopsy reports said the manner of George Floyd’s death was a homicide. Neither said the cause of his death was a fentanyl overdose.
The Hennepin County medical examiner found fentanyl in Floyd’s system, but the autopsy said the cause of his death was “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law-enforcement subdual restraint, and neck compression.”
Experts told the Washington Post they did not believe Floyd died from the fentanyl.
See the sources for this fact-check
Months after a video of George Floyd gasping for air sparked months of protests nationwide, the murder trial began for Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer who pressed his knee into Floyd’s neck for several minutes.
At the center of the case is the question of how Floyd, a 46-year-old Black man, died. In the runup to the trial, social media users and some conservative commentators have recycled debunked claims that the autopsies said Floyd died of a drug overdose.
"Toxicology report was made public by the MN prosecution revealing the cause of George Floyd’s death was a fentanyl overdose," said one March 24 Facebook post.
The Facebook post is wrong about what the Hennepin County medical examiner’s autopsy said. The post was flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.)
Two autopsies were completed after Floyd died in May 2020, following what video footage shows was roughly nine minutes spent pinned under Chauvin’s knee. The two reports found different causes of death, but neither ruled that Floyd died because of an overdose.
An independent autopsy ordered by Floyd’s family ruled Floyd’s death a homicide. The two doctors who conducted the autopsy concluded that Floyd died of asphyxiation, or suffocation.
The Hennepin County medical examiner’s office also ruled that Floyd died in a homicide. But it said the cause of his death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law-enforcement subdual restraint, and neck compression," which occurred while Floyd was being "restrained."
In other words, Floyd’s heart stopped as Chauvin restrained him, as PolitiFact has reported.
Don't speak on behalf of Houston. George Floyd was a scumbag. How about you mourn the men and women who die for their countries, not some scumbag who put a knife to a pregnant woman's stomach.
Here are the facts about Floyd's arrests and criminal record.
Police Arrested Floyd a Total of 9 Times, Mostly on Drug and Theft Charges
According to court records in Harris County, which encompasses Floyd’s hometown of Houston, authorities arrested him on nine separate occasions between 1997 and 2007, mostly on drug and theft charges that resulted in months-long jail sentences.
No evidence suggests a woman involved in the 2007 charge was pregnant
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But before we get into the specifics of those cases, first, some biographical details, per The Associated Press (AP): Floyd was the son of a single mother, who moved to Houston from North Carolina when he was a toddler so she could find work. They settled in what’s called “Cuney Homes,” a low-income public housing complex of more than 500 apartments in the city’s predominately Black Third Ward. As a teen, Floyd was a star football and basketball player for Jake Yates High School, and later he played basketball for two years at a Florida community college. After that, in 1995, he spent one year at Texas A&M University in Kingsville before returning to his mother’s Cuney apartment in Houston to find jobs in construction and security.
Another piece of important context while exploring how, and under what circumstances, police arrested Floyd in the late 1990s and early 2000s when he lived in Cuney Homes: On multiple occasions, police would make sweeps through the complex and end up detaining a large number of men, including Floyd, a neighborhood friend named Tiffany Cofield told the AP. Additionally, Texas has one of the highest incarceration rates in the country, per the Prison Policy Initiative, and several studies show authorities are way more likely to target Black Texans for arrests than white residents.
As to the details of Floyd’s arrests, the first occurred on Aug. 2, 1997, when he was almost 23 years old. According to prosecutors, police in that case caught him delivering less than one gram of cocaine to someone else, so they sentenced him to about six months in jail. Then, the following year, authorities arrested and charged Floyd with theft on two separate occasions (on Sept. 25, 1998, and Dec. 9, 1998), sentencing him to a total of 10 months and 10 days in jail.
I am not going to bother to even read your leftist looney dribble. The world is a better place without Fentanyl Floyd. He died of an overdose, period. End of Story.
IOW, You won't read the actual autopsy report which did NOT say he died of an overdose. How about reading the actual report?
The Hennepin County Medical Examiner's office released its initial findings of their autopsy and also declared Floyd's death was a homicide caused by "a cardiopulmonary arrest whilebeing restrained by law enforcement officer(s)."
Baden said Floyd was in good health before his death and said the video of his death showed the compression of his neck and back very clearly.
"When he said 'I can't breathe,' unfortunately, many police are under impression that if you can talk that means you're breathing. That is not true," he said during the news conference.
The medical examiner's preliminary report, however, said Floyd had "other significant conditions," including "arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease, a fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use."
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A badge & a gun doesn't give someone a license to act a fool at random. I truly believe most police officers were picked on as kids so they go into law enforcement to get revenge.
